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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 03EBZ06
...and now a moment of silence. My LS3 block is going to LS Heaven, crank and rods are ok as well as reluctor wheel.......
What kind of block damage did you (or do you think) you sustained?

Did the pistons frag on you?

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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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So why does he not believe the 245's are right for a "ls3 bore"?
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Damn.....sorry to hear this. Pistons should be OK. Keepin' fingers crossed!
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Thanks...I believe the pistons were ok and I'll likely be selling them. New engine builder likes the CPs, so thought I would give them a try.

Originally Posted by tug686spd
About the heads though ( same ones I spent my money on for this motor) not sure I'd get rid of them yet. Something wasnt right with this build from the start. I can see how you would want to start over with a fresh start but thats a lot of money to be out.
you read things like I do. The truth is that I have been wanting to play w/the square port heads for a long time. Note, I have had TFS Ford 302 heads (1994), TEA TFS 215, TEA TFS 235s(excellent results), and now the TEA TFS 245s. I have confidence in the heads, but I'm ready to experiment a bit.

Originally Posted by KW Baraka
What kind of block damage did you (or do you think) you sustained?

Did the pistons frag on you?

KW
It appears the pistons survived. The block is not damaged, but there has to be a water leak somewhere and I am not willing to put it back in the car. We are going to magnaflux it and hopefully find something.

Originally Posted by blk00ss
So why does he not believe the 245's are right for a "ls3 bore"?
A matter of opinion I guess. He says the gasket was showing in the chamber and chamber larger than bore I believe. I thought I measured the head when I bought it and found it insignificant. I'll be looking closer when I get them back.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 12:49 AM
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So, it looks like the new combo is going to be:
NEW COMBO PLAN:
LS3 416 13:1, CP Pistons, Mast 265cc LS7, Hi-Ram LS7 and Jessel Rockers. The heads are toss up as Mast has the 255s in stock but not the 265s. Not sure I'll do this, but Frankenstein claims his Mast LS3s are 276cc and no telling what those things flow but he wants $4450 a set

For anyone interested, I'll have my TEA TFS 245s, Crower 1.7 Shaft Mount rockers, and Manton Pushrods, Fast 102 w/Direct Port, for sale, might even make a combo of this stuff.

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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 01:34 AM
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If you had "Twisted Wedge" heads and Flowmaster 40's on your ride you were difinitely cool! Around here there is still quite a few people that think it fdoesnt get any better than that. Along with the A-Z 303 cam.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tug686spd
If you had "Twisted Wedge" heads and Flowmaster 40's on your ride you were difinitely cool! Around here there is still quite a few people that think it fdoesnt get any better than that. Along with the A-Z 303 cam.
LOL. Yes, they were the original TW heads vented through da flowmasters.
I was never a fan of the alphabet cams, but those were good heads. My lawn mower outflowed the stock 5.0 heads.
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Old Mar 4, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 03EBZ06
LOL. Yes, they were the original TW heads vented through da flowmasters.
I was never a fan of the alphabet cams, but those were good heads. My lawn mower outflowed the stock 5.0 heads.
Yeah we called the 5.0 heads "Thumb ports" cuz the exhaust ports could barely fit the width of your thumb. LOL
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 05:03 PM
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Our Mast 276cc heads flow 386 on the intake and 266 on the exhaust. The price of $4450 is for a solid roller set up with bigger dual PAC springs. If you want to do the smaller solid roller set up good to .700 lift the cost goes down to $3750
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 06:31 PM
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I didn't know you guys offer MAST heads
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 01:29 AM
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Chris offers everything!
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankenstein
Our Mast 276cc heads flow 386 on the intake and 266 on the exhaust. The price of $4450 is for a solid roller set up with bigger dual PAC springs. If you want to do the smaller solid roller set up good to .700 lift the cost goes down to $3750
Once you receive a head how long to work your magic
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 12:59 PM
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We buy the heads in a raw form and do all our own cnc work, valve job, etc. It takes 7-10 business days for completion once we have the heads. The castings are usually in stock and we can have them in about 5 days.
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So you guys offer your own versions of All Pro, and now MAST also?

Do you guys get the MAST head like y'all do the All Pro, in the "pro porter" raw castings?
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 01:01 AM
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Update: The final package.

LS3 Block, 4.070" bore, CP Pistons LS7 valve angle, box forged, gas ported, nitrided top ring, Scat Pro-H beam rods, Scat Pro-4340 Crank, Isky Lifters, Jessel 1.7 rockers, Mast LS7 265cc 0.800" lift springs, SLP oil pump, Hi-Ram LS7.

I don't know how this could not make serious power, then again I thought the last engine would too.

Frankenstein, we shall meet up later...

Engine builder thinks he is going to beat all my cams w/his
248/260-110LSA 0.600", SR

Cams I plan to test against :

Comp Cams SR:
261/270-112+4, 0.734/0.737
268/280-114+0, 0.711, 0.711 *NEW CAM NOT TESTED*


Cam Motion LLSR:
259/270-114+4, 0.748, 0.748

Mast Head Flow Data:

Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 82 61
0.200 151 119
0.300 230 188
0.400 292 219
0.500 332 236
0.600 352 251
0.650 360 254
0.700 365 260
0.800 369 263
0.850 370
0.900 371

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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 03EBZ06

Engine builder thinks he is going to beat all my cams w/his
248/260-110LSA 0.600", SR

Cams I plan to test against :

Comp Cams SR:


Mast Head Flow Data:

Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 82 61
0.200 151 119
0.300 230 188
0.400 292 219
0.500 332 236
0.600 352 251

With your engine builder's cam, this is your max effective airflow with your heads, since with .600" cam lift, the additional flow up to .800" won't come in to play...... I think the only way his cam 'wins' is if he has a more optimal dynamic compression ratio over the other cams.

BTW....what's the static compression of this engine?

KW

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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 08:38 AM
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Cr=13:1
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1- The 245 TFs heads still aren't nor weren't the issue why it made no power.
That has obviously been proven seeing the issues found with the old engine

2- 13-1 compression and a mid 240's @050 cam w 600" lift

I think you may be headed for heartbreak again



Good luck though
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by crossbreed383
1- The 245 TFs heads still aren't nor weren't the issue why it made no power.
That has obviously been proven seeing the issues found with the old engine

2- 13-1 compression and a mid 240's @050 cam w 600" lift

I think you may be headed for heartbreak again



Good luck though
That's an unknown on the heads several cams to be tested
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Originally Posted by 03EBZ06
That's an unknown on the heads several cams to be tested
That TFS 245 head on the right combo can and will run hi 8s on motor in good air

What's the confusion???

I am really sincere when I say I hope you get it figured out
I think someone is giving you false info is all
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 11:09 AM
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Interested to see how the new build progresses versus the old troubled one. Any idea why the motor was having issues? I'm hoping my new build has better success than your previous. Subscribed.
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