Generation IV Internal Engine 2005-2014 LS2 | LS3 | LS7 | L92 | LS9

Symptom of broken valve springs?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-31-2015, 01:37 AM
  #1  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
mr08353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 86
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Symptom of broken valve springs?

LS3 in my 2013 Camaro developed a random backfire and at the passenger front of engine a dead knock can be heard about every 5 or 6 seconds. Similar to what an A/C clutch sounds like when it's engaging. Someone with more experience than me heard it and suggested s broken spring. I took valve covers off and nothing readily noticeable. Is it possible that a broken spring would generate a random backfire and if so, wouldn't the break be noticeable? I guess the next step is to physically remove all springs for closer inspection. Any thoughts or ideas???
Old 11-01-2015, 12:35 PM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (14)
 
farmington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Little River SC
Posts: 1,807
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

is it still under warranty?
Old 11-01-2015, 12:39 PM
  #3  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
mr08353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 86
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by farmington
is it still under warranty?
Lol. Nope. Too many HP mods. I'm on my own on this one.
Old 11-02-2015, 10:21 AM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (14)
 
farmington's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Little River SC
Posts: 1,807
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

maybe have someone crank it while you have covers off and you look and listen
Old 11-02-2015, 12:27 PM
  #5  
TECH Resident
 
racecar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Pull the valve covers, get a small mirror and flashlight. Look at the springs very carefully.. One could be broken close to the bottom, on the back side where it is hard to see. Just like a broken brake rotor. You always expect to see it front and center. If it is on the back side and down low, very hard to see. OR: Bent pushrod???
Old 11-02-2015, 12:38 PM
  #6  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
mr08353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 86
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by racecar
Pull the valve covers, get a small mirror and flashlight. Look at the springs very carefully.. One could be broken close to the bottom, on the back side where it is hard to see. Just like a broken brake rotor. You always expect to see it front and center. If it is on the back side and down low, very hard to see. OR: Bent pushrod???
Ouch. Lol. You would have to mention a pushrod wouldn't you? Haven't done anything to bend one of those. Easier to check those than pull all those springs off. Still tempted to let it idle w/o the valve covers on them and see if I can get a better look. Just hate to make a mess.
Old 11-02-2015, 10:58 PM
  #7  
TECH Resident
 
racecar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

OK, Take the covers off, take the spark plugs out, crank it with the starter and listen for the noise. Use a jumper on the starter. Don't turn the key on and crank it. You would have fuel and spark coming at you.
Old 11-03-2015, 09:08 AM
  #8  
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (40)
 
BMR Sales2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seffner, FL
Posts: 3,451
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 16 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by racecar
OK, Take the covers off, take the spark plugs out, crank it with the starter and listen for the noise. Use a jumper on the starter. Don't turn the key on and crank it. You would have fuel and spark coming at you.
The first thing I would do if you think it is a broken spring is get the valve cover off and visually inspect the valve springs. If you have a broken spring/s you can generally see it pretty easily.
__________________
Glenn ***
Sales Tech
www.bmrsuspension.com
813.986.9302


Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
Old 11-03-2015, 09:21 AM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
 
MuhThugga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wilmington, De
Posts: 1,695
Received 246 Likes on 166 Posts

Default

Broken valve springs are pretty easily seen. This wouldn't be the first time a lifter took a **** in a LS engine, though. If you still have a warranty on the car, I wouldn't even bother with anything other than taking it to the dealer to get fixed.

Working on cars is fun and you get to beat on your chest and all that jazz, but only a fool wouldn't use a warranty.
Old 11-03-2015, 12:27 PM
  #10  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
mr08353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 86
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MuhThugga
Broken valve springs are pretty easily seen. This wouldn't be the first time a lifter took a **** in a LS engine, though. If you still have a warranty on the car, I wouldn't even bother with anything other than taking it to the dealer to get fixed.

Working on cars is fun and you get to beat on your chest and all that jazz, but only a fool wouldn't use a warranty.
Warranty is no good. Too many HP mods. Dealership would only laugh at me.
Old 11-03-2015, 12:32 PM
  #11  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
mr08353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 86
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BMR Sales2
The first thing I would do if you think it is a broken spring is get the valve cover off and visually inspect the valve springs. If you have a broken spring/s you can generally see it pretty easily.
Sure. I've done that. All the springs look good. That's why I'm confused.
Old 11-03-2015, 01:00 PM
  #12  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
mr08353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 86
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by racecar
OK, Take the covers off, take the spark plugs out, crank it with the starter and listen for the noise. Use a jumper on the starter. Don't turn the key on and crank it. You would have fuel and spark coming at you.
Good idea. Thanks. I will definitely try that.
Old 11-04-2015, 02:26 PM
  #13  
TECH Fanatic
 
MuhThugga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wilmington, De
Posts: 1,695
Received 246 Likes on 166 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by mr08353
Warranty is no good. Too many HP mods. Dealership would only laugh at me.
What kind of mods?
Old 11-04-2015, 02:43 PM
  #14  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
mr08353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 86
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MuhThugga
What kind of mods?
Headers, cam, new heads & valve-train



Quick Reply: Symptom of broken valve springs?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:29 PM.