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Old Jan 26, 2019 | 05:29 PM
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I was swapping my harm. balancer today on my LS3 and when I pulled the balancer off I noticed the attached seal sitting loose on the crank snout. It does not appear to be part of the front crank seal. Does anyone one know what this is? I am new to the LS platform, but man was it a bitch to get the steering rack out in order to access the balancer, so I definitely don't want to do it more than once.

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Old Jan 26, 2019 | 06:25 PM
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Well I couldn't let it go.... for anyone who finds this useful

"The "seal" if I have been informed correctly is a diamond embedded anti rotation washer to stop/help stop the Corvette balancer from moving on the crank. It goes between the balancer and the spocket and bites into each. Seal is simply to keep the oil on the inside. (maybe someone on here knows better than that. certainly an odd explanation, but possibly quite true.) "

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Old Jan 27, 2019 | 05:34 PM
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I thought that it was just to prevent oil leaking out the keyway of the balancer on the LS3 since it does not use a key. I use black silicone to fill the keyway too when installing the balancer
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 06:28 AM
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Hmm, well the stock balancer doesn't have a key way, so there would be no way for the oil to travel out. However, you raise a really good point with regards to aftermarket key'ed balancers. My thought would be that the sealant on the crank bolt should keep everything inside, but I like that idea, I think I'll also add a bit of RTV to mine as well.

Thanks for the idea.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:34 AM
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Its called a friction ring. Not for sure what its for. I dont remember seeing them used on the earlier LS stuff.
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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 11:32 AM
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The part shown above has been superseded by a new style. Replaced by 12674588
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Interesting...my crate LS3 didn’t have this when I pulled the balancer...according to part number above it’s described as an Anti-Rotational Friction Washer, the last 6.0 I pulled the balancer didn’t have one either, I wonder why?

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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 03:46 PM
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Are you sure it wasn't there? Was the balancer pinned instead? I was told the new part has diamond particles embedded for grip.
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The balancer is a press fit on the crank. No keys, no pins.
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
The balancer is a press fit on the crank. No keys, no pins.
Pinning the crank is a modification to prevent the balancer from slipping under loads from blowers.
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Originally Posted by L78steve
Are you sure it wasn't there? Was the balancer pinned instead? I was told the new part has diamond particles embedded for grip.

yes, I’m positive it wasn’t on there...and no the balancer wasn’t pinned...as stated above they are press fit
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Are you sure the crate engine you bought has the car balancer? As stated earlier, if it has the truck balancer (like the LS3 camaro) then it will not have the friction ring.
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Originally Posted by DFORESI
Are you sure the crate engine you bought has the car balancer? As stated earlier, if it has the truck balancer (like the LS3 camaro) then it will not have the friction ring.
I missed that part, and no my crate engine didn’t come with vette accessory spacing....didn’t realize it was unique to the vette balancer, what makes the vette balancer more likely to spin on the crank?
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The Vette balancer presses on just like the truck/gen 5 and gen 4 F-body balancers. They all install the same. Only the accessory drive spacing is different
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Old Feb 3, 2019 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA


I missed that part, and no my crate engine didn’t come with vette accessory spacing....didn’t realize it was unique to the vette balancer, what makes the vette balancer more likely to spin on the crank?
Not really sure, the truck balancer sticks out off the snout a lot more, its possible that this additional leverage keeps it settled? Not sure. Regardless, it seems like an undisputed fact that this friction ring is only on the corvette balancer.
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Its not only on the Vette. I have it on a G8.
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