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Old 04-11-2019, 04:44 PM
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t will be good. off by 0.003 is nothing. preload at .035 vs .038? no big deal
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They're getting a misfire on #4 exhaus, primary running much cooler than the others. They're saying it's because that push rod is too long and causing the valve to not close. My notes indicate I measured 7.511" at zero lash, and I ordered a 7.55" because of Al saying the tolerance was +/- .005". The Manton push rod we installed in that guide I measured as 7.556", and it's stamped as 7.561". I asked the shop when I can come up to re-measure, and I've asked them to confirm there isn't a vacuum leak on that new valve after the valve job before I reorder. My understanding is they had the machine shop handle the valve job, and my shop supplied the OEM exhaust valves.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
They're getting a misfire on #4 exhaus, primary running much cooler than the others.
I'm just throwing this out there from personal experience.... Are you POSITIVE that injector isn't dead? I had the exact same problem once and it was one dead injector.
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The pushrod length is likely fine. You actually LOSE preload as the engine warms up. Even if you are 045 cold, it is still 035 warm. It is fine.

Valve should have been lapped in. Simple compression test will verify the valve is not staying open.
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The shop claims they already performed "compression and leak down test and as soon as you take pressure off the rocker arm this cylinder seals back up."

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Well I guess that answers it. Gonna order one 020 shorter and go?
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I'm open to recommendations. There was a bit of grumpiness between me and one of their employees last week due to delays, and now I'm not supposed to be there unless the owner is there. I'm waiting for the owner to approve me to come up after work tonight to re-measure. If I remeasure and it's the same or insignificantly different, do I still re-order? I might be able to get the replacement pushrod tomorrow if I order from Manton soon enough today though, which would need to be before I'm allowed back at the shop.But ordering again without re-measuring is another guess...?
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If the shop is treating you like that, I'd suggest trailering her to another shop. That's terrible business practice. Wow.
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For the first month, basically all of my communication had been routing through the tech that I've known for maybe a decade, between multiple shops. He has good intentions, but he often tends to tell customers what they want to hear, which doesn't always align with business practices. The owner wasn't aware of my concerns until I had an argument with the tech last week.

I had a long discussion with the two shop owners last night, and I promised them to keep the details private. However, they promised accommodations and review of internal communications.
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How did the Johnson lifters change the behavior of your oil pressure readings? Would the billet barbell have an effect on the oil pressure readings?
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I did the saccity barbell and remember being happy with it. it was too long ago, but I do seem to remember oil pressure at idle increasing some. not like it jumped from 25 to 40, but maybe form 20 to 25. I also installed that bypass blocker in the oil filter mount.
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When these take a lot of fine adjustment...sounds like adjustable rockers would be helpful ?
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
When these take a lot of fine adjustment...sounds like adjustable rockers would be helpful ?
I can see both sides to that. I prefer to stick with pushrod lengths and shims, because there is nothing to slip or come loose. Takes more work on the setup side but less work in routine maintenance thereafter.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
I can see both sides to that. I prefer to stick with pushrod lengths and shims, because there is nothing to slip or come loose. Takes more work on the setup side but less work in routine maintenance thereafter.
having adjustability is nice and all but if you are like me too much adjustability make your head hurt lol. if its close enough well theres nothing i can do about it so it is what it is.........thats how i like it, but then i sold my rebound adjustable shocks for compression and rebound shocks lol
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
……….. but then i sold my rebound adjustable shocks for compression and rebound shocks lol
We ARE a fickle bunch, huh?? lol
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
We ARE a fickle bunch, huh?? lol
with how easy they are to adjust i can see myself never finding the right setting
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I wonder how the Isky lifters (made by Johnson) square up compared to these




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