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Old 10-28-2019, 09:20 AM
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Didn't some of the 5.3 aluminum blocks have the breathing windows in them?
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L33 did... but nobody sleeves those. Unless it's the MID stuff.
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Jay, I was searching for a manifold test over on CF and saw your N/A thread. Geesh man. Reminded me quickly why I don’t go over there much. There’s more drama over there than both of the soap operas my wife records combined! Absolutely ruined your thread.
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The LS7 is the weakest of the LS Gen IV castings. Aluminum has been removed from the main bearing thrust bulkhead to side wall radius to reduce weight. Good points are the steel main bearing caps. However, these should have been installed with press fit into the sides of the block (like the other LS blocks save for the LS9 which uses the same system) instead of relying on hollow dowels to locate them. They are good enough with Darton sleeves installed but I much prefer starting with a new LS2 block for NA or good used 12571048 5.3 for sleeving with after market steel caps installed for high boost applications.
If you are doing something like this (sleeving a GM block), is there any difference between LS2 vs LS3. I thought I read the LS3 they beefed / changed things up in a few areas?
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I've always heard the LS2 block was the strongest aluminum block that wasn't the 5.3L (because of smaller bore and lack of bay windows) or LSA/LS9.
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If I remember correctly, GM revised the bay windows on the LS3 blocks. They made them bigger without reducing strength, supposedly.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Didn't some of the 5.3 aluminum blocks have the breathing windows in them?
The Gen V 5.3 blocks are windowed. Also all of the front drive 5.3 blocks.
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If I remember correctly, GM revised the bay windows on the LS3 blocks. They made them bigger without reducing strength, supposedly.
GM put a larger radius at the bottom of the bores at the main bearing bulkhead. However, when the blocks are sleeved for a larger bore that radius has to be cut away for honing stone clearance.

Any of the blocks with breather holes can crack between the breather holes and cam bearing bores. This happens when the blocks are used for pedal to the metal racing, desert race trucks, for miles and miles. The 5.3 blocks hold up much better with the solid main bearing bulkheads.
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If you are doing something like this (sleeving a GM block), is there any difference between LS2 vs LS3. I thought I read the LS3 they beefed / changed things up in a few areas?
I sleeve both. As I mentioned earlier the LS3 has a larger radius at the bottom of the bores, similar to the LS7 blocks. This has to be machined away during sleeving or the block couldn't be honed after. However the poor sleeve placement from the factory makes some LS3 blocks harder to sleeve. To clean up the bores they may all have to be shifted a few thou out of position from where they should be to get down to bare aluminum. I sleeved an LSA block yesterday that cleaned up nicely but that's often not the case. On the LS2 the cast in iron liner is smaller on the outside diameter so this isn't an issue.
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This is one of the worst LS3 blocks I have seen. Photo was sent to me yesterday by another member of this forum. No clue how this passed inspection at GM.
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Talk about core shift....
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Great GM quality control as usual.
Toyota and Honda could learn a thing or two about this.
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Originally Posted by bortous
Great GM quality control as usual.
Toyota and Honda could learn a thing or two about this.
As in how NOT to do it.... lol
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Jay, I was searching for a manifold test over on CF and saw your N/A thread. Geesh man. Reminded me quickly why I don’t go over there much. There’s more drama over there than both of the soap operas my wife records combined! Absolutely ruined your thread.
Yeah, that post turned into a **** show in no time. Before that, I hadn't posted much in that section. I remember why.
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