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Old 12-10-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Know It All
Did you measure that with checking springs? I would be okay with .074" but if it makes you feel better, the real springs will cause a little bit of deflection and increase that PTV.

Don't forget that you do have an adjustable timing set. You could always retard the cam a degree to give up a little exhaust PTV to gain some intake PTV.
Thanks for that info.

I was using check springs. Makes sense that you would lose some lift with real springs.

I had some difficulty adjusting the cam timing precisely. I kept changing by a degree or two each time I made an adjustment. When I finally got within a degree off I said close enough but it is on the advanced side of the specified icl.

I'll try retarding that a degree and see what clearance that gives.
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Thanks for the input. I was thinking the thinner gasket would be an advantage in avoiding detonation by improving quench. I wasn't thinking to run it to deliberately raise the cr.
The thinner gasket will be better for preventing detonation. You will be fine with your comp ratio with the thinner gasket.
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You'll never have an issue with .070" intake p2v. The intake valve chases the piston. Where is the cam installed at?
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I double checked everything and I'm not sure why I posted that the intake clearance was .074, that was at 5 degrees atdc. It was actually .067 at 8 degrees where it was tightest . This was with the intake centerline at about 110.5 degrees. Also the shims I was using are more like .056 so thicker than the stock gasket.

I adjusted the intake centerline to 111.5, (cam card calls for 111), it changed the clearance to .069 at 8 atdc. Tightest point again.

I think I'm going to do a .030 relief cut and run the .041 gaskets.

Doing the math like this: .056 shim when measuring - .041 gasket = .015

Clearance as measured = .069 - .015 gasket thickness adjustment = .054 existing clearance

Desired clearance = .080 - existing clearance .054 = .026 minimum relief cut

What size cutter should I use? I have the stock 2.00" valves. I'm thinking 2.10"
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Originally Posted by jlangley
I double checked everything and I'm not sure why I posted that the intake clearance was .074, that was at 5 degrees atdc. It was actually .067 at 8 degrees where it was tightest . This was with the intake centerline at about 110.5 degrees. Also the shims I was using are more like .056 so thicker than the stock gasket.

I adjusted the intake centerline to 111.5, (cam card calls for 111), it changed the clearance to .069 at 8 atdc. Tightest point again.

I think I'm going to do a .030 relief cut and run the .041 gaskets.

Doing the math like this: .056 shim when measuring - .041 gasket = .015

Clearance as measured = .069 - .015 gasket thickness adjustment = .054 existing clearance

Desired clearance = .080 - existing clearance .054 = .026 minimum relief cut

What size cutter should I use? I have the stock 2.00" valves. I'm thinking 2.10"
When you call Lindy to order, he will ask you a couple questions about your engine, and tell you what you need. The guy is super knowledgeable. He makes them to order. I called him to order mine, at like 3pmish. He cut mine after our phone conversation and mailed it out same day.
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Originally Posted by jlangley
I double checked everything and I'm not sure why I posted that the intake clearance was .074, that was at 5 degrees atdc. It was actually .067 at 8 degrees where it was tightest . This was with the intake centerline at about 110.5 degrees. Also the shims I was using are more like .056 so thicker than the stock gasket.

I adjusted the intake centerline to 111.5, (cam card calls for 111), it changed the clearance to .069 at 8 atdc. Tightest point again.

I think I'm going to do a .030 relief cut and run the .041 gaskets.

Doing the math like this: .056 shim when measuring - .041 gasket = .015

Clearance as measured = .069 - .015 gasket thickness adjustment = .054 existing clearance

Desired clearance = .080 - existing clearance .054 = .026 minimum relief cut

What size cutter should I use? I have the stock 2.00" valves. I'm thinking 2.10"
If you are going to flycut anyway, just go ahead and decide the centerline you actually want for engine performance. For the overwhelming majority, slightly advanced is preferred to slightly retarded for improved midrange and butt-dyno performance.
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I ordered the fly cutting tool. He recommended 2.07" to give .035 radial clearance for the 2.00" valve.
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Cut my valve reliefs. Decided to go .035 deep. The Lindy tool worked perfectly.




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Old 12-31-2019, 08:14 AM
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Nice job



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