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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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First on the iron block this is less of an issue because of the material and the 4 bolt splayed is more than adequate. In the aluminum version I think first of all Dart uses a different aluminum and they reinforce the block in a variety of areas and they also use bigger bolts to hold the mains on - so the cross bolting is not needed. I think the Dart block is also more like the 5.3 block without or much less of the bay-to-bay windows and this 4 bolt set up is how they address the bay-to-bay breathing and expanding the area around the mains for air travel.
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Guys, I have an update.
To my surprise the engine was painted a nice high gloss black to prevent rusting.
The job was really well done.
Also, the intake manifold in the pictures is not secured.
It's only on for the photos.
Engine will be in the car next week.











Old Aug 22, 2020 | 05:40 AM
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Looks great Bort!!
Old Aug 22, 2020 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Looks great Bort!!
Thanks.
It's a beauty.
Old Aug 22, 2020 | 06:28 AM
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Looks great!!!! Found any street races yet?
Old Aug 22, 2020 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Looks great!!!! Found any street races yet?
I have.
Another engine is coming in on a stand with wheels to race mine down a hill.
Old Aug 22, 2020 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
I have.
Another engine is coming in on a stand with wheels to race mine down a hill.
Lol. Put graphite on the stand wheels
Old Aug 22, 2020 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Lol. Put graphite on the stand wheels
That's quite creative.
If only I was nearby.

Old Aug 25, 2020 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
I have a question. I know I asked it in Speedtiger's thread and I don't remember the answer. I thought the 6-bolt mains were suppose to keep the crank study. This was why the cast cranks took so much abuse. Is this not true? I take it the 4-bolt mains in the DART block are just a better design /better material? Just trying to understand this.

thanks in advance to whomever responds.
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Just checking in on Bort's progress and saw your question....figured I would help out

The Dart block has larger hardware and the splayed outer main bolts going on an angle into a meatier portion of the block really add a tremendous increase in clamp load and rigidity.....that design really keeps the caps from moving.

Splayed caps in general are stronger but more time consuming to machine so not as factory user friendly if your trying to produce mass quantity of blocks. Plus as I mentioned the Dart main fasteners are larger than the OEM LS stuff. The 6th bolt factory position of the LS is helpful but its a small 8mm fastener that's far from where the forces of the crankshaft are being harnessed

A really stout four bolt billet cap splayed set up is stronger than an OEM 6 bolt set-up.....BUT the OEM LS configuration is stout in its own right. For a factory set-up the LS is still a really solid foundation

Bort.....looking forward to this engine firing up soon.....its been a long road

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Originally Posted by Tony @ Mamo Motorsports
Just checking in on Bort's progress and saw your question....figured I would help out

The Dart block has larger hardware and the splayed outer main bolts going on an angle into a meatier portion of the block really add a tremendous increase in clamp load and rigidity.....that design really keeps the caps from moving.

Splayed caps in general are stronger but more time consuming to machine so not as factory user friendly if your trying to produce mass quantity of blocks. Plus as I mentioned the Dart main fasteners are larger than the OEM LS stuff. The 6th bolt factory position of the LS is helpful but its a small 8mm fastener that's far from where the forces of the crankshaft are being harnessed

A really stout four bolt billet cap splayed set up is stronger than an OEM 6 bolt set-up.....BUT the OEM LS configuration is stout in its own right. For a factory set-up the LS is still a really solid foundation

Bort.....looking forward to this engine firing up soon.....its been a long road

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Hey Tony,
Hope you are good.
I sure am looking forward to the fire up too.
The air needs to start flowing through those ports.
Old Aug 26, 2020 | 02:06 PM
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Tony,
Thank you for chiming I’m on this. We re all waiting on Bortus to give us some good new soon ( looking at Bort)
Old Aug 26, 2020 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1367
Tony,
Thank you for chiming I’m on this. We re all waiting on Bortus to give us some good new soon ( looking at Bort)
Don't make me blush ☺️
Old Aug 26, 2020 | 02:23 PM
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Yeah Bort. Don’t make me start a new build, and finish it before you start yours over there.
Old Aug 26, 2020 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Yeah Bort. Don’t make me start a new build, and finish it before you start yours over there.
​​​​Make sure you come to me for a cam spec for your build.
Old Aug 26, 2020 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bortous
​​​​Make sure you come to me for a cam spec for your build.
You got it man.
Old Aug 27, 2020 | 07:08 PM
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Here you go Bort. Just a little 388 with those so called Cathedral Door Stops. Kenny's new motor.
Old Aug 27, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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That is at the rear wheels not the flywheel. 41 pnds of boost. Never under estimate the Cathedrals. You'll see soon enough.
Old Aug 28, 2020 | 12:33 AM
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Wow Mr T.
That is seriously impressive power.
Nearly 2000hp and at 7000rpm.
What Cathedral head is on this engine?
Old Aug 28, 2020 | 02:32 AM
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Trick Flow 245 Cathedrals
Old Aug 28, 2020 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TTur1996
Trick Flow 245 Cathedrals
Cathedrals seem to do so well under boost.
Most likely due to the exhaust port efficiency.



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