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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
I haven't been posting much lately but my brother from another mother Smokey isn't coming back.
Smokey and I have already discussed this on the phone. He's on another forum having fun.

On the other hand good luck on your build Bortous.
Ok that explains it.
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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
It shows Last 1 joined in 2015. Maybe an old/abandoned-until-now account?
Last 1 is an older gentlemen in Kentucky with a C6. I have spoke with him on the phone. Really cool guy!
Old Apr 8, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta
Last 1 is an older gentlemen in Kentucky with a C6. I have spoke with him on the phone. Really cool guy!
Nice! his kind is always welcome here, or anywhere!
Old Apr 8, 2020 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bortous
I miss Smokey.
I hope he comes back with a similar name. Smokey C (cannabis)
Really suits him.
Nah.......Sir Tokesalot....

Never seen anyone high on grass deliberately looking for a fist fight but have seen plenty jacked up on liquid courage. A stoner is a much bigger threat to the couch and refrigerator.
Old Apr 8, 2020 | 03:30 PM
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I donot think he used Smokey as a drug reference. I think it was deference to Smokey Yanuck. Similar to his rowdy Yates persona

Edited for spellcheck

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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 03:55 PM
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^^^no he defly was! The name Smokey B was more than likely derived from that movie Half Baked. The character "Scarface" always referred to everyone and everything as"B". Pretty funny movie.

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Old Apr 8, 2020 | 08:49 PM
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Most likely he is back on yellow bullet.
Always talked up that site saying ls1 tech is for amateurs.
Old Apr 9, 2020 | 07:06 AM
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He is dark matter on Yellow bullet. Not much going on over there in the technical section. He started his 408 build thread over there.
Old Apr 9, 2020 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
He is dark matter on Yellow bullet. Not much going on over there in the technical section. He started his 408 build thread over there.
Ok. He was displeased with me having my ex 408 and how he is building one.
i remember reading all the disapproval comments from him.
Strange world.
Old Apr 9, 2020 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
Ok. He was displeased with me having my ex 408 and how he is building one.
i remember reading all the disapproval comments from him.
Strange world people.
Fixed for you I think you made the wrong choice too but there's no point beating you up about it. It's your car and $$$$$ so you can do whatever you want. That's kind of the point of building something lol. Doesn't mean it can't be fun just because it's not what someone else would do.
Old Apr 9, 2020 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Fixed for you I think you made the wrong choice too but there's no point beating you up about it. It's your car and $$$$$ so you can do whatever you want. That's kind of the point of building something lol. Doesn't mean it can't be fun just because it's not what someone else would do.
I agree.
I could have spent an extra 4K AUD and got an LS3 block as advised but I didn't want to spend the $.
Old Apr 9, 2020 | 10:06 AM
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427ci ftw! JK, your build will be plenty. I prolly wouldn't even know the difference if I went for a ride along in half these 400"+ street cars these days...
Old Apr 9, 2020 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rkupon1
427ci ftw! JK, your build will be plenty. I prolly wouldn't even know the difference if I went for a ride along in half these 400"+ street cars these days...
It wasn't so much for the cubes just for the fact i would have had the right size bore for those ls3 heads.
If i had gone the mamo route with this engine the 235 head would have been the perfect fit and I would not have had to build another engine.
Knowing what I know i i probably would have built it a 416.
427 would need a 4.1 inch stroke.
Piston speed too high and longevity is compromised.
Plus piston would go out of the bore.



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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
He is dark matter on Yellow bullet. Not much going on over there in the technical section. He started his 408 build thread over there.
People are attacking him now over there also that he will never build it. You know i'm not going to hate on him just because he has an opinion whether i agree with it or not. Some people would say the same about me as i posted up about my ls7 daytona heads over there back in 2017 now. And i still haven't put it together and it's not even financial. But enough people will make assumptions, human nature. If i had someone here i can trust right now to finish my LS2 engine i have sitting on the stand and install it in the car together with refreshing my th400 and give the car back to me how i know i would have done it, i'd throw them 2 or 3k cash right now. Where i am i can't trust any workshop to build my stuff how i will, ie properly. I have to do it myself and i don't get enough time or motivation these days. I just want to drive it finished, not build it.

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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bortous
I agree.
I could have spent an extra 4K AUD and got an LS3 block as advised but I didn't want to spend the $.
$3350 and could be had even cheaper if ebay throws a special. Some good deals going right now, considering how bad our exchange rate is.

Edit: this site won't allow links. Let me try break it up into parts

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ification.html
It worked just putting a space between a few of the words! lol

edit...it’s not the site that won’t allow the links. We have sponsors and vendors here that keep this site running financially that sell parts.

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Old Apr 9, 2020 | 09:53 PM
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I know this isn't my thread but can i ask you guys your opinions on this. I have the opportunity to purchase some lentz nascar rods, they have been used but they look to be in very good condition and not thrashed. They are oem sbc journal size and 6.125 long, 927 pins. They will fit LS even if i have to mill the small ends down a little. Would you guys trust used Lentz rods? Remember these rods are real expensive new, over 2k a set new i think, and made for continuous high rpm nascar, not a cheap chinese forging. I'm almost thinking to take a risk on them because of how beefy they look.
Old Apr 10, 2020 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Launch
I know this isn't my thread but can i ask you guys your opinions on this. I have the opportunity to purchase some lentz nascar rods, they have been used but they look to be in very good condition and not thrashed. They are oem sbc journal size and 6.125 long, 927 pins. They will fit LS even if i have to mill the small ends down a little. Would you guys trust used Lentz rods? Remember these rods are real expensive new, over 2k a set new i think, and made for continuous high rpm nascar, not a cheap chinese forging. I'm almost thinking to take a risk on them because of how beefy they look.
I have no problem running those. They have one race on them. That’s how the teams do it. Thousands of sets of used NASCAR rods on the web with 500 miles on them. Hard miles yes, but fine for a street application.
Old Apr 14, 2020 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
I have no problem running those. They have one race on them. That’s how the teams do it. Thousands of sets of used NASCAR rods on the web with 500 miles on them. Hard miles yes, but fine for a street application.
He did say they were only used one race and in excellent condition. Well i bought them, pic from the seller below. He will remove the pistons as he was selling them as a package deal but the pistons are no good to me. Because of our exchange rate and shipping/taxes they ended up $940 of our money so hopefully they are good. ARP also sell a replacement arp2000 bolt kit for these rods if needed, if i find any of the bolts don't stretch/torque properly, which i doubt if they've only been used once. These have the big 7/16 carr sps bolts. Hopefully the rods aren't too heavy and with forged pistons the total weight comes in under the weight of the gen4 rod/stock piston combo.

These are for my LS2 build and i was going to use the stock gen4 rods and run it SBE , but with forged pistons it wouldn't be SBE anyway. I've been holding out looking for a set of rods like this, but most of them that come along are honda size rod journals and the wrong width, typically not wide enough. These are a bit of a unicorn as they are the correct standard SBC dimensions, and 6.125" long. If there's a chance these rods might save me from grenading a long motor at 8k rpm versus a stock gen4 rod, they are worth the money.

I bought King HP bi-metal rod bearings a while ago but not sure if i should use those or something better. If anyone has any opinions on those.

Edit: on the rod bearings, i just realised they might be the XP series. I will have to look at the box later tonight and confirm. I just looked at it they are 807HPN which are HP series bi-metal. They seem to get good reviews so i'll run them. Back to Bort's build.....


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Old Apr 16, 2020 | 01:01 AM
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Thought to update everyone on what is happening with engine so far.
At the moment the machinist is in Quarantine for 2 weeks so I am unsure when my parts are going to be balanced etc.
I guess around two more weeks.
Other than that, there is nothing else to report.
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 04:48 AM
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I can only imagine how this makes u feel. Hopefully he’ll be ok and he can get back to building your motor.



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