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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:22 PM
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Quick question I built this motor 5 years ago set it into the car and then Life .

Do I need to change the valve springs after sitting for 5 year ? Motor was built and has never turned over . I think I should but want other opinions .
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:39 PM
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They should be fine unless they have rust on them. Rust can make them crack.
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 10:07 PM
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Well I take it that you went ahead and torqued all the rockers down loading up the springs where they sat compressed for all these years. If it's still on the stand then I'd probably replace them or at least pressure check them. Anytime your gonna leave a fresh motor sit for long periods of time it's best to back off all the rocker arms.
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 10:10 PM
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My 383 LS1 sat 7 years due to life and the valve springs were OK. Hydraulic roller lifters.

If it has solid roller lifters I'd definitely change the valve springs. Hydraulic roller lifters, the springs are probably OK.

However, valve springs aren't that expensive so for peace of mind it may be worth changing them.

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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 08:56 AM
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Well I take it that you went ahead and torqued all the rockers down loading up the springs where they sat compressed for all these years. If it's still on the stand then I'd probably replace them or at least pressure check them. Anytime your gonna leave a fresh motor sit for long periods of time it's best to back off all the rocker arms.
I let a GMPP crate motor sit for 8 years, no issues. My project took a lot longer than I thought it would. 🙂
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1973 STEP A SIDE

Quick question I built this motor 5 years ago set it into the car and then Life .

Do I need to change the valve springs after sitting for 5 year ? Motor was built and has never turned over . I think I should but want other opinions .
If theyre a good name spring, run them. Different situation, but I've run my PAC springs for almost 8 years, 33,000+ miles. This with 2 cams over the years, one with .645"lift, new one with .600" lift. Still working well. Point being many suggest changing long before 33,000 miles. I'll have close to 40,000 miles on them by the end of May of this year, and I have no plans on changing them then, either.......
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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To all the nay say's out there "I've been running on the same valve springs forever" you can do whatever tickles your fancy.

You want to take chances then have at it and when you float a valve or worse drop one I'll be the first to say I told you.
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 05:49 PM
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No sure about remaining available spring pressure, but I second the rust statement. I was rebuilding Kohler V-twin zero turn mower engines for a while, and reused some valve springs that had surface rust on them. The engine ate a valve later that summer, I warrantied repaired it, and found the valve spring broke right at a pit formed by the rust. Real stuff. And those have like no pressure to them, can nearly compress by hand.
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If theyre a good name spring, run them. Different situation, but I've run my PAC springs for almost 8 years, 33,000+ miles. This with 2 cams over the years, one with .645"lift, new one with .600" lift. Still working well. Point being many suggest changing long before 33,000 miles. I'll have close to 40,000 miles on them by the end of May of this year, and I have no plans on changing them then, either.......
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To all the nay say's out there "I've been running on the same valve springs forever" you can do whatever tickles your fancy.

You want to take chances then have at it and when you float a valve or worse drop one I'll be the first to say I told you.
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No I am with you I can do them for about $200 myself
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Originally Posted by 1973 STEP A SIDE
Quick question I built this motor 5 years ago set it into the car and then Life .

Do I need to change the valve springs after sitting for 5 year ? Motor was built and has never turned over . I think I should but want other opinions .
At least take the valve covers off and inspect them. If there is no sign of corrosion, run it. If there is rust, trash em.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 10:19 AM
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There's a reason why I do not fully load my magazines. Everything weakens and breaks once age catches up!
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Originally Posted by KCS
If there is no sign of corrosion, run it.

I'm another vote for send it.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 09:23 AM
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There's a reason why I do not fully load my magazines. Everything weakens and breaks once age catches up!
you should never leave magazines loaded for longer than a month. Empty them for a week or so and then reload. Keep rotating them
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Weakened springs causes a loss of control with the valves and this is not something that can pass a visual. Why not do it correctly by pressure testing them to insure they're up to the task and replace them if necessary or just replace them. It's cheap insurance and peace of mind.
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Any signs of rust (including light surface rust) replace them. If they are spotless, send it.
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
To all the nay say's out there "I've been running on the same valve springs forever" you can do whatever tickles your fancy.

You want to take chances then have at it and when you float a valve or worse drop one I'll be the first to say I told you.
That attitude will certainly win you many popularity contests!! The last thing anybody wants to hear about anything is a bunch of I told you so's!!! Especially when they're standing over a blown engine. Its one thing if they cry about their springs "only" lasting 50,000 miles/8 years. It's another to stick them in the *** when they're down......
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Poking fun at somenone who had an engine grenade on them isn't funny and it's certtainly not who I am. As for the valve springs there hasn't been any heat cycles ran through them and they're likely okay but I still recommend checking them. Otherwise it will be in the back of your mind as to how long before I really do need to change them and from what I've gathered so far the engine is on an engine stand.
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Originally Posted by grinder11
That attitude will certainly win you many popularity contests!! The last thing anybody wants to hear about anything is a bunch of I told you so's!!! Especially when they're standing over a blown engine. Its one thing if they cry about their springs "only" lasting 50,000 miles/8 years. It's another to stick them in the *** when they're down......
An "I told you so" AFTER getting warned REPEATEDLY against doing something potentially detrimental to an engine is priming themselves for the chiding they deserve for ignorance. They might be down, but they put themselves there.
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No motor is in the car. I removed the valve covers and there is no rust on them and only 5 have rocker pushing down on the valves.
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