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Old Sep 19, 2022 | 11:38 AM
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What's the best bang for your buck for a LLSR solid setup? I really don't want a set of $1800 rockers lol I see comp has a set of shaft mount adjustables for $750 .

Open to ideas. 😁 I don't want to shim stock rockers either . I'd rather just get a set of adjustables if there's any that won't break the bank that people have had good luck with
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Old Sep 19, 2022 | 12:34 PM
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What's the best bang for your buck for a LLSR solid setup? I really don't want a set of $1800 rockers lol I see comp has a set of shaft mount adjustables for $750 .

Open to ideas. 😁 I don't want to shim stock rockers either . I'd rather just get a set of adjustables if there's any that won't break the bank that people have had good luck with
😉 Are you talking about the stud mounted adjustable Comp cam rockers are something different?
I have the Stud mounted adjustable 1.82 Comp rockers. Other have used them without anything I've heard. I modded mines for a larger stud with matching BBC trunion for a little more strength with a cam on the +side of .700 lift. You can make a stud girdle also if you wanted. Buy a blank girdle and know a machinist, rather a good builder.
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Old Sep 19, 2022 | 05:45 PM
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I would probably look at Yella Terra adjustables.
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😉 Are you talking about the stud mounted adjustable Comp cam rockers are something different?
I have the Stud mounted adjustable 1.82 Comp rockers. Other have used them without anything I've heard. I modded mines for a larger stud with matching BBC trunion for a little more strength with a cam on the +side of .700 lift. You can make a stud girdle also if you wanted. Buy a blank girdle and know a machinist, rather a good builder.
Yes these are the ones !
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Good to see you back around, man!
Hey thanks!

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Originally Posted by Mavn
Yes these are the ones !
Pushrod guide plate holes for larger pushrods 👀 and a girdle would or should be enough for .750 and below Lift. Girdle is the main thing so the studs work as a team. .700 below wouldn't worry to much.
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Pushrod guide plate holes for larger pushrods 👀 and a girdle would or should be enough for .750 and below Lift. Girdle is the main thing so the studs work as a team. .700 below wouldn't worry to much.
Probably will be right at .700 lift working with cam motion now.
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Old Sep 19, 2022 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavn
Probably will be right at .700 lift working with cam motion now.
you want a Low shock LLSR which is a long broad lobe with lift as not to shock the valve train.

Once you get the rockers call Bobby or Steven.. or if you guys are talking you want a lobe with Lift thats A soft MFer with Lift = Lift. Also more time in the valve being open. Not just Boom lift. More area under the curve Cam lobe not just peak lift.
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Old Sep 19, 2022 | 11:19 PM
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You can take Billy Goldbold engineering and use Bobby or Steven?
idk... its backward engineering thinking. Lift and at the seat for a cam? You can design a lobe 🤫

The cam is the 🧠 = get as Much Air & Fuel no Matter the Cost Na?
🤣😂 more air & fuel creates a Bigger Bomb?

Fill the Cylinder LIfe..... No exceptions or excuses what FI does on a NA state of mind. There just forcing it in, We all Natural. I like real Boo Bee's.
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Old Sep 20, 2022 | 06:29 AM
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I still can never understand what youre saying. But I'm here for it lol
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Forget that low shock stuff, unless your running this thing at 9k for hours. Pick a lobe that makes power. It’s N/A….you need all the help you can get.
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Old Sep 20, 2022 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
Forget that low shock stuff, unless your running this thing at 9k for hours. Pick a lobe that makes power. It’s N/A….you need all the help you can get.
🤣😂 lame doesn't even know what a low shock cam is or it's definition. Hell the only way to get information on most of the lobes and the Good lobes on the subject that aren't Listed Anywhere is you have to know someone at comp cams or call/email as most are not listed. And they still don't give out much. I had to know Billy to get the 3 intake & 3 exhaust lobes I got. Billy & his underling helped me spec 2 cams one was a little more track happy with the icl & lsa with 2 degrees more duration on both sides. Actually that cam was spec'd by Billy. My point was Bobby and Steven are great people but if what Billy has done can be used with Cam Motion and it's LLSR series lobe it's a good idea if you know what Billy is doing and incorporating the idea. 💡
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I swear I could say on here what color my car is and you’d argue with me about it. I know Billy. Personally. LOLZZZZZZ!
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Old Sep 20, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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I swear I could say on here what color my car is and you’d argue with me about it. I know Billy. Personally. LOLZZZZZZ!
He always ruins my threads. First thread back in months and it's already ruined 🤣
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I don't see any reason to run those crazy setups unless your going max effort NA with tons of lift on a super aggressive lobe. I see sbc guys run comps adjustable, aluminum even, all the time for >.700 lift. I got comp golds on my sbc .650 lift, works just fine and pulls over 7k just fine. I think the steel ones would be even better.
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I have a Cam Motion LLSR setup with T&D rockers and it's really sweet. But I bought the rockers a few years ago before the price got ridiculous.....
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Has anyone used Comps XD-A adjustable pushrods in lieu of adjustable rockers? Seem good in theory just haven't seen any examples to back it up.

COMP Cams® introduces a game-changing method for accurately setting lash or pre-load while using non-adjustable-style rockers. The patent-pending XD-A™ Adjustable Pushrods incorporate a top section that slides two inches inside a wider bottom section, with one or two shims captured in-between. Proven to 9,000-plus RPM in solid roller LS applications, the system provides a 90-percent increase in bending stiffness for enhanced valve train stability. It also allows for lightening of a rocker arm system by 30-plus grams on the backside by removing the adjuster and required support area for threads and seating. The use of lighter rockers (such as the COMP Cams® SPR™ Radius Tip Rocker Arms) with XD-A™ Adjustable Pushrods allows higher RPM to be achieved by creating a much more dynamically stable valve train system.

The pushrods are designed especially for engines with low-mass rocker arms and a light valve train with drop-in fitment in LS engines. They can be adjusted over a range of .172" in .004" increments with shims, sold in sets of 16 by thickness or as a 240-piece set containing all available thickness options. Top sections are available in 0/200" increments for coarse adjustment and work with hydraulic and solid roller camshafts. Available for GM LS engines with more popular applications coming soon.

High Performance Pushrods for Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, GM, and more (compcams.com)
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Has anyone used Comps XD-A adjustable pushrods in lieu of adjustable rockers? Seem good in theory just haven't seen any examples to back it up.

COMP Cams® introduces a game-changing method for accurately setting lash or pre-load while using non-adjustable-style rockers. The patent-pending XD-A™ Adjustable Pushrods incorporate a top section that slides two inches inside a wider bottom section, with one or two shims captured in-between. Proven to 9,000-plus RPM in solid roller LS applications, the system provides a 90-percent increase in bending stiffness for enhanced valve train stability. It also allows for lightening of a rocker arm system by 30-plus grams on the backside by removing the adjuster and required support area for threads and seating. The use of lighter rockers (such as the COMP Cams® SPR™ Radius Tip Rocker Arms) with XD-A™ Adjustable Pushrods allows higher RPM to be achieved by creating a much more dynamically stable valve train system.

The pushrods are designed especially for engines with low-mass rocker arms and a light valve train with drop-in fitment in LS engines. They can be adjusted over a range of .172" in .004" increments with shims, sold in sets of 16 by thickness or as a 240-piece set containing all available thickness options. Top sections are available in 0/200" increments for coarse adjustment and work with hydraulic and solid roller camshafts. Available for GM LS engines with more popular applications coming soon.

High Performance Pushrods for Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, GM, and more (compcams.com)
I have seem something with the same "idea" but not the same. It was designed to remove the adjuster on the rocker in order to save weight.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Has anyone used Comps XD-A adjustable pushrods in lieu of adjustable rockers? Seem good in theory just haven't seen any examples to back it up.

COMP Cams® introduces a game-changing method for accurately setting lash or pre-load while using non-adjustable-style rockers. The patent-pending XD-A™ Adjustable Pushrods incorporate a top section that slides two inches inside a wider bottom section, with one or two shims captured in-between. Proven to 9,000-plus RPM in solid roller LS applications, the system provides a 90-percent increase in bending stiffness for enhanced valve train stability. It also allows for lightening of a rocker arm system by 30-plus grams on the backside by removing the adjuster and required support area for threads and seating. The use of lighter rockers (such as the COMP Cams® SPR™ Radius Tip Rocker Arms) with XD-A™ Adjustable Pushrods allows higher RPM to be achieved by creating a much more dynamically stable valve train system.

The pushrods are designed especially for engines with low-mass rocker arms and a light valve train with drop-in fitment in LS engines. They can be adjusted over a range of .172" in .004" increments with shims, sold in sets of 16 by thickness or as a 240-piece set containing all available thickness options. Top sections are available in 0/200" increments for coarse adjustment and work with hydraulic and solid roller camshafts. Available for GM LS engines with more popular applications coming soon.

High Performance Pushrods for Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, GM, and more (compcams.com)
These look interesting. I think im going to attempt this... TSP Roller Rockers and those would work fantastic..
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