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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:09 PM
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Hey everyone! I recently got a little valvetrain noise and am looking for some thoughts.

This motor had a spun rod bearing, so I rebuilt it into a 416 over the winter. I've been driving the car with no issues now for about 4 months.

Here's the valvetrain info:
Texas Speed Stage 4 (F-35) LS3 cam
Texas Speed .660 springs
Texas Speed 7.400" pushrods
CHE Rocker trunnions
Stock LS3 rocker arms
Chevrolet Performance Lifters (88958689)

The heads were done at a local engine shop, so I am not the most knowledgeable when it comes to valvetrain. I just built the bottom end and assembled the whole thing.
I have been told "that amount of noise is normal". I have heard this engine before the tick, so there is something going on.
I have also been told to check my pushrod length, but the rest of the engine sounds good.

My thoughts is that it is either the 4th or 5th rocker on that side of the engine, after using a stethoscope and the slow motion videos listening to the noise.
I don't even know where to begin in diagnosing which part of the valvetrain could be the issue, so any input is really helpful.


There should be some videos attached, I can also upload them from YouTube if that helps.


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tqHZ_TcNg2c

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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:17 PM
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Run a stethoscope by each one. You'll hear it get LOUD when close to the culprit.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:33 PM
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No.1 or No. 3 exhaust based on the timing of the sound in the video.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:33 PM
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I put the stethoscope onto each rocker bolt while it was running, personally the 4th one had the loudest clicking noise, much louder than all the rest.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis_Gustafson
I put the stethoscope onto each rocker bolt while it was running, personally the 4th one had the loudest clicking noise, much louder than all the rest.
That would be the No. 3 exhaust rocker arm
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:35 PM
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Where do I start looking from there? Pull the pushrod and inspect?

I had the head off recently, and the cam looked great, and no lifter rollers had pitting or anything.
I am not ruling out lifters, but I am just not sure how to test that as the culprit.
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Pull that rocker arm and inspect it and the pushrod for starters. Also examine the retainer and valve spring.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 03:49 PM
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Alright! I appreciate that! I might have some time during the work week to pull it apart and take a peek.
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You could swap the rocker with another on the other side to see if noise moves. That rules out if its a bad rocker. Likely going to be a lifter though.
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Originally Posted by B4CMaro
You could swap the rocker with another on the other side to see if noise moves. That rules out if its a bad rocker. Likely going to be a lifter though.
Good idea! Could I do the same with the pushrod to rule that out as well?

I don't mind pulling the head again, but I would like to rule out everything else first.
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Pushrods are pretty basic. Check the ends for undue or obvious wear, then roll them on a flat surface (like a glass pane) to check for straightness.
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That and verify the OAL
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
That would be the No. 3 exhaust rocker arm
Nailed it!! Nice work......
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Originally Posted by Travis_Gustafson
Good idea! Could I do the same with the pushrod to rule that out as well?

I don't mind pulling the head again, but I would like to rule out everything else first.
Good rule of thumb is not to make too many changes at once. I'd swap the rocker, OR pushrod, but not both at the same time......
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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by grinder11
Good rule of thumb is not to make too many changes at once. I'd swap the rocker, OR pushrod, but not both at the same time......
Thanks! I can do one at a time to verify each part individually.

I might pull the pushrod right off the bat and check if it is straight and its overall length.
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Old Aug 12, 2023 | 02:28 PM
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Update!

Finally had time to check it out. Pushrod is not bent. Also swapped the rockers and the tick stayed in the same spot. Going to replace the lifter next.
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Since these are the CHE upgraded rocker, Pull the alloy bushing out and look for wear in the rocker arm, bushing and trunnion.

I’ve never heard of a CHE failure, but it might be a good idea to Check since they are a floating design. Piece on mind.

Did you ever replace the OEM rocker trays? Were they actual GM pcs? Also try looking at the springs.
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