Why are the LS2 intakes so much cheaper than the LS6?
09-11-2004, 10:04 AM
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Why are the LS2 intakes so much cheaper than the LS6? Why are the LS2 intakes so much cheaper than the LS6? Does this mean there will be a massive price drop in LS6 intakes really soon? Is there some new manufacturing process? It looks pretty much the same to me...
09-11-2004, 10:08 AM
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Why are the LS2 intakes so much cheaper than the LS6? Does this mean there will be a massive price drop in LS6 intakes really soon? Is there some new manufacturing process? It looks pretty much the same to me...
09-11-2004, 10:53 AM
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I think its something a bit different.
LS1 intake ~= LS2 intake
LS6 intake ~= LS7 intake
Buying a LS1 intake is just like buying a stock LS1 intake, there isnt anything 'special' about them as the LS2 is the base motor design. When the LS7 stuff rolls around, youll see the big price tags again Im sure.
I could be totally wrong though, lol.
LS1 intake ~= LS2 intake
LS6 intake ~= LS7 intake
Buying a LS1 intake is just like buying a stock LS1 intake, there isnt anything 'special' about them as the LS2 is the base motor design. When the LS7 stuff rolls around, youll see the big price tags again Im sure.
I could be totally wrong though, lol.
09-11-2004, 12:10 PM
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I think you're totally wrong. GM rushed the LS1 manifold into production in '97 and didn't incorporate the smooth bell shaped entry on the intake runners from the prototype aluminum manifolds until the LS6 came out. I highly doubt they went back to the sharp edges on the intake manifold runners like the LS1 had. Remember, the LS2 manifold shows significant dyno gains over the LS6 manifold, so it's got to be better internally as well.
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09-11-2004, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
I think you're totally wrong. GM rushed the LS1 manifold into production in '97 and didn't incorporate the smooth bell shaped entry on the intake runners from the prototype aluminum manifolds until the LS6 came out. I highly doubt they went back to the sharp edges on the intake manifold runners like the LS1 had. Remember, the LS2 manifold shows significant dyno gains over the LS6 manifold, so it's got to be better internally as well.
According to GM the price decrease is due to a supplier change and a change in manufacturing process --- no other reasons! Warning --- leave it to the fine folks at GM and the price will go up.
09-11-2004, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KJ@SDPC
Warning --- leave it to the fine folks at GM and the price will go up.
Did you get my PM KJ? I want in on this before the price skyrockets.Brad
09-11-2004, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KJ@SDPC
When you say the LS2 intake shows significant gains over the LS6 --- where do you get this info? Has anyone seen a back-to-back comparison of the LS2 versus the LS6 on any engine? We are just curious! We intend to test as soon as we can, will probably test on a 5.7L. We would like to see an "apples-to-apples" comparison!
According to GM the price decrease is due to a supplier change and a change in manufacturing process --- no other reasons! Warning --- leave it to the fine folks at GM and the price will go up.
According to GM the price decrease is due to a supplier change and a change in manufacturing process --- no other reasons! Warning --- leave it to the fine folks at GM and the price will go up.
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09-11-2004, 02:24 PM
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... Remember, the LS2 manifold shows significant dyno gains over the LS6 manifold, so it's got to be better internally as well.
Where you get this information???
09-11-2004, 02:40 PM
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Here is one post about the power gains. Post #8 and #15
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ight=road+race
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ight=road+race
09-11-2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
I think you're totally wrong. GM rushed the LS1 manifold into production in '97 and didn't incorporate the smooth bell shaped entry on the intake runners from the prototype aluminum manifolds until the LS6 came out. I highly doubt they went back to the sharp edges on the intake manifold runners like the LS1 had. Remember, the LS2 manifold shows significant dyno gains over the LS6 manifold, so it's got to be better internally as well.
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Originally Posted by Speedfreaks101
Hmm, I am curious if FMS tested the LS1 intake with a comparable throttle body?
TPIS can rework a stock LS1/6 intake to accept one of their oval wide mouth TB's that is comparable to a 90mm TB.
www.tpis.com type "oval" in the search to find the LS1/6 oval TB and intake setup. If you do a search on here I believe there is a little bit of info on it in the external engine section or the dyno section also.
09-11-2004, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Another_User
I thought I heard somebody say the "LS7" was not an engine that GM actually planned on creating?
Here's a quote from the article...
The LS7 OHV V-8 for 2006 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 is the first engine confirmed for the Performance Build Center, but others will follow.
09-12-2004, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FairwayGreenVette
I think you heard wrong, here is a press release from GM, on the new facility that is going to be building the LS7 along with other high performance engines.
Here's a quote from the article...
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=74&docid=6384
Here's a quote from the article...
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=74&docid=6384
09-12-2004, 03:12 PM
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I think you're totally wrong. GM rushed the LS1 manifold into production in '97 and didn't incorporate the smooth bell shaped entry on the intake runners from the prototype aluminum manifolds until the LS6 came out. I highly doubt they went back to the sharp edges on the intake manifold runners like the LS1 had. Remember, the LS2 manifold shows significant dyno gains over the LS6 manifold, so it's got to be better internally as well.
I am not saying that the LS2 manifold is the same as the LS1 manifold, I am saying that their prices have to be comperable. If the LS2 intake was 400 bucks, the LS7 manifold would be 700 or better, just not feasable.
The LS2s intake is just a new intake, its nothing special as far as the LS2 is concerned. The LS7 intake WILL be special to the LS2, just like the LS6 intake is special to the LS1.
09-13-2004, 10:42 AM
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Based on dyno testing by the School of Automotive Machinists, Lingenfelter and Futral, the LS2 intake showed gains over the LS6. The gains most likely came from having the larger throttle body.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
09-13-2004, 11:26 AM
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Has anyone tried the TPIS 1200CFM intake(oval) and T/B(oval) and seen gains? If this has ben out and proven why isn't it more popular besides cost. Putting cost aside, are these worth it?
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09-13-2004, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SquintzPallatore
Did you get my PM KJ? I want in on this before the price skyrockets.Brad