06 z06 vs fords gt-40
01-23-2005, 04:40 PM
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Automobile Mag trapped 12.2@125 in a GT, and then bitched about how the interior sucked, and they **** quality of the seals leaking on them. They like the performance, but basically said the car itself was a joke as far as actually being a car. They recommended getting a chase vehicle so you bring your wallet and cell phone on a trip.
The GT was rushed, and like EVERY ALL NEW FORD for the last 6+ years is a piece of **** for a first run. The Focus (so highly touted when introduced) was recalled for safety, the T-Bird recalled for overheating. Both of which were recalled before the paint was even dry. Let's not even talk about recalls with the Escape. Notice that Ford dropped the "quality is Job 1" slogan years ago!
It's a neat car, but a joke for the money!
The GT was rushed, and like EVERY ALL NEW FORD for the last 6+ years is a piece of **** for a first run. The Focus (so highly touted when introduced) was recalled for safety, the T-Bird recalled for overheating. Both of which were recalled before the paint was even dry. Let's not even talk about recalls with the Escape. Notice that Ford dropped the "quality is Job 1" slogan years ago!
It's a neat car, but a joke for the money!
01-23-2005, 05:08 PM
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like all first year cars, the gt has its few problems... Just like all first model year corvettes do. Lets recap some of corvettes problems. Lets see, we have the locking steering wheel, shitty rocking seats, the infamous piston slap issue, oil consumtion problems, and I have heard of some messed up stories with the c6's key fob letting people jump in the car and drive away if the owner is in close proximity. Gee, the General is flawless... How can you people honestly think the gt is going to handle like ****?? The main goal ford had for the gt was to make another ferrari killer like back in the 60s. 
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01-23-2005, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BES Stroked Nova
well, every GT-40 made has been reacalled, basically the wheels fall off, so in my book, they are peices of ****, and the Z06 makes 500 HP with pushrods, and no supercharger. So ford, kiss my ***!
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01-23-2005, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by meangreen94z
The highest Ive seen a GT trap is 125, 130 is what Ive seen the Enzo trap.
2005 Ford GT 1/4-mile = 11.2@131.2
2003 Ferrari Enzo 1/4-mile = 11.0@133.9
2004 Porsche Carrera GT 1/4-mile = 11.1@133.4
Originally Posted by LSONE
tony, we've all heard your stupid *** argument on displacment, and we're all sick of hearing it, go away.
01-23-2005, 07:29 PM
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The Z06 will be within spitting distance. It is lighter than any of them. They all, expect maybe the Ford, have better aero. The mid-engine is advantage on road course.
However, the Corvette is far and away the most usuable of this group, with the Carerra second. It may also be the easiest to drive fast. It is built in far greater numbers. And you can get one.
The Enzo is out of production and I think about $1-1.5M used. The Carrera is readily available used at its MSRP of around $450k. The Ford has availability problems that has jacked up the price. The Ford is being built in 1000-1500 unit/year numbers, which are high at that price point. However that is less than one per dealer average. And probably less than half will be available to regular buyers, few at MSRP.
It will be interesting to see what market the Ford has in 2008 when the new wears off. By then, the Z06 should be available with a significant discount, even if it starts at $62k.
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However, the Corvette is far and away the most usuable of this group, with the Carerra second. It may also be the easiest to drive fast. It is built in far greater numbers. And you can get one.
The Enzo is out of production and I think about $1-1.5M used. The Carrera is readily available used at its MSRP of around $450k. The Ford has availability problems that has jacked up the price. The Ford is being built in 1000-1500 unit/year numbers, which are high at that price point. However that is less than one per dealer average. And probably less than half will be available to regular buyers, few at MSRP.
It will be interesting to see what market the Ford has in 2008 when the new wears off. By then, the Z06 should be available with a significant discount, even if it starts at $62k.
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01-23-2005, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 52172
where did you get the info stating the z06 traps 127 when no one has gotten their hands on one?
One of the four magazines i get every month... Motor Trend, Automobile, Car & Driver, Or Road & Track. I dont recall which one.
01-23-2005, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ricekillman
A stock Ford GT traps over 130mph in the 1/4 mile. Put on a smaller pulley on there and it will be faster than an Enzo.
01-23-2005, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Montana
If the GT40 is a POS, the vette is not road worthy. Sure the Z06 makes 500hp, but it is a much larger displacment engine. Personally, I'd take the GT40 everytime. The fact that it is mid engined is enough to sway me. Hell, it might even be better than the F360....not a claim the "Z06" can make. The GT40 is THE american exotic, period.
01-23-2005, 08:23 PM
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Z06, without a doubt, the gt has too many problems and is way over priced. As far as the whole mid engine thing, that isn't going to give the gt40 any advantage. The z06 already has a pretty much perfect 50/50 weight distribution, doesn't matter where the engine is. And as far as road racing, as i remember the corvette team has pretty much dominated le mans racing within their class.
01-23-2005, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mnc2886
Do you realize how much boost that engine is allready running? I think the boost is like 21 psi allready.
01-23-2005, 09:20 PM
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My choice is easy.. bigger engine in z06, more potential in z06, z06 is cheaper, gets better gas milage, and weighs less. Chances are they will be close in performance, at half the price.. something that could easily be fixed with minor mods. Hell, even at 5lbs, the z06 would be absolutely demolishing the GT. The potential is far greater for far less money. Why is there even an argument, the only reason anyone would pick a GT is it'll be rarer than the z06. But then again, pintos are rarer than z06's now, does that necessarily mean they are any good? I mean, its a neat car.. but for 99% of people on this board. It's not practical. The reason we own f-bodys/trans am's in the first place is for bang for the buck. For supercars, the z06 is it.
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01-23-2005, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
Im sure the Z06 will still kick the GT butt around a road course, but not in a drag race stock vs stock. 
the GT is a mid-engine car which is far better than front engine for roadracing
01-23-2005, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BES Stroked Nova
well, every GT-40 made has been reacalled, basically the wheels fall off, so in my book, they are peices of ****, and the Z06 makes 500 HP with pushrods, and no supercharger. So ford, kiss my ***!
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01-23-2005, 11:34 PM
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And I was reading a magazine article about the lamborghini murcielago, and both times the mag tested it they broke it. Doesnt really prove much other then s#it happens.