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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Rapid put down 553rwhp with a streetable 402 with AFR 225's....with more tuning left to do! With 25 more cubes, better LS7 12* heads (?), and the lessons learned from the C5R racing program, why couldn't the Z06 make 40 hp less?????
Why? Because they don't from the factory! The "insider" GM engine dyno's have these motors making in the 510+FWHP range.....so please explain how this translates into 500+RWHP when it's proven that the IRS of the Corvette costs it power on a chassis dyno when compared to a solid rear axle like the F-body?
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kaisenls1
Rapid put down 553rwhp with a streetable 402 with AFR 225's....with more tuning left to do!
With 25 more cubes, better LS7 12* heads (?), and the lessons learned from the C5R racing program, why couldn't the Z06 make 40 hp less?????

The math is there for an emissions-legal 515rwhp to be possible

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If GM could use that cam and headers, maybe. But they can't. They have to deal with emissions, and fuel economy, and 150k mile emissions warranty.

I think it maybe more like 450rwhp though with 510-525 at the crank. If the engine can be reprogrammed, then 600 rwhp may be there with a cam, headers, and tune. The heads, intake, and tb are already there.

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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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I'm with John B on this one.
And thats why your name's Joe Dirt!
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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And thats why your name's Joe Dirt!
Everything worked out for him in the end.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Anybody know when the zo6s will be out for testing?
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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I wouldnt doubt it. This thing is going to be crazy fast with a cam and a tune
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Everything worked out for him in the end.
Good point...that chick had a sweet...
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
I wouldnt doubt it. This thing is going to be crazy fast with a cam and a tune
Don't forget headers either. It's making all that power on exhaust manifolds... the LS7 will probably gain like 40 rwhp with long tubes
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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i would guess that they will put down between 460-490 on the dynojet.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Don't forget headers either. It's making all that power on exhaust manifolds... the LS7 will probably gain like 40 rwhp with long tubes
Don't bet on it! This motor has factory "shorty" mandrel bent headers in leui of cast manifolds. Expect long tubes to pick up some torque down low but not a bunch of power up top.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by John B
Don't bet on it! This motor has factory "shorty" mandrel bent headers in leui of cast manifolds. Expect long tubes to pick up some torque down low but not a bunch of power up top.
It will be interesting to see... I wonder what the diameter of those are?
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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as stated some people are confusing tuner motors with an OEM one. there is no way there getting 500rwhp in a 50 state legal 7 yr warrenty car. sure when you throw on mods the car will be a monster but from the factory 500rwhp aint happening n/a.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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If I remember correctly, there were numerous posts over the last few months stating that the General was having trouble reaching it's 500hp goal (at the fw) for the new Z06 while keeping it emission legal.

Now, 515rwhp would mean around 600fwhp (assuming 14% loss with the IRS).

They had trouble reaching 500, and now, magically, they are at 600...

Come on guys...

My bet is around 440rwhp.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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that thread is pure BS. At the crank, sure. You guys are nuts for even thinking for a second this motor will make that kind of power.
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
that thread is pure BS. At the crank, sure. You guys are nuts for even thinking for a second this motor will make that kind of power.
Well we will all see soon enough, won't we?
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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I believe about 440-450 rwhp on a dynojet but I wonder how much torque at the wheels?
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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Another_User
Well we will all see soon enough, won't we?
Some people have already seen.

Just over 500 at the crank, whatever that translates to on a dynojet is what it'll have at the wheels.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 02:12 AM
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Im driving a 405 fwhp 347ci so i dont see why they cant make a 427ci make 100-150 more horses reliably. Only time will tell.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Im driving a 405 fwhp 347ci so i dont see why they cant make a 427ci make 100-150 more horses reliably. Only time will tell.
Well it's not always 405 HP; I've seen a few stock ones get 410-420 approximate flywheel HP. I also saw a bone stock '01 come in at 407 flywheel GM sooo lied on that one; no way the '01 LS6 was 385 HP. That means an '01 would have 10 more RWHP than my SS with an LS1 intake, and not to mention early LS1 head castings.

500 rwhp seems very unlikely... However the LS7 does have a lot of racing built into it... I'm thinking at least 450 RWHP. Dry sump, titanium parts, insane heads, etc. man I love this engine
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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I read an article yesterday on these. They are advertising 500hp from the factory! The article also listed all the items that were altered to lower the weight of the car. They said the carbon fiber front fenders had to be strapped down to paint them or they would just blow away. Carbon fiber bracing in the roof also. Balsa wood sandwiched between carbon fiber for the floor pans. Light weight and provides a sound barrier. I believe the article was in Motor Trend Magazine.
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