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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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im going fffffffffff== nuts waiting for stroker !!! zo6 in on monday don't know how am going to take the next seven days help!!!!! ill give the stuff that i bought.. you guys tell me the hp.. ok!!!! lets start from bottom billet mains/ ls2 block/arp studs/eagle 4in crank /eagle rods/ dimond pistons 11.5 com/ ls6 stage3 heads/com1/8rollars/those heavy dutylifters morel /90/90 fast& N/W t/b the rest is common vera ram . ill start i think 490 rwhp only because im missing AFR 225 heads

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Sounds very similar to mine, except the stroke, mine is a 4.100 Eagle I have about 3 weeks to go only because I have a Solo 2 next week and don't want to take a chance of missing it.

Who is building it for you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm out of Burlington and you can probably guess who is doing mine.

BTW my guess is 505rwhp, thats what I'm kind of hoping for with 500+ft.lbs

Did you do the Morel lifters? If so I stick with my guess. If not I go with the 490.



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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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475-485 RWHP easily

With an awesome tune you might see damn near 500rwhp.
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Sounds very similar to mine, except the stroke, mine is a 4.100 Eagle I have about 3 weeks to go only because I have a Solo 2 next week and don't want to take a chance of missing it.

Who is building it for you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm out of Burlington and you can probably guess who is doing mine.

BTW my guess is 505rwhp, thats what I'm kind of hoping for with 500+ft.lbs

Did you do the Morel lifters? If so I stick with my guess. If not I go with the 490.



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the lifter are morel !!! your bang on !!!!!!! wade stevens is doing mine how about yours???

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by STROKER R/T
the lifter are morel !!! your bang on i think wade stevens is doing mine how about yours???
The other team! Wade used to play for. I'm not going to get into shop politics. Both places know how to build stout motors as long as they want too.

Wade may be building one for a good friend of mine too. I know Denntech's car went amazing on the weekend. I'm calmly waiting for mine, that 4.100 crank was a real pain to get. I'm not sure if they are officially release, I had to beg with Eagle to get it. I like to be unique, if it works well I won't be for long.

You will make very good numbers I'm sure.

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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how are you guys guessing hp without the cam specs being listed?

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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
how are you guys guessing hp without the cam specs being listed?

True enough!

I'm going off memory for mine, but it was like 244-250 XER int. and big block exh. .625 lift and 112-113 LSA with a 1.75 Pro Magnum rocker.

Not sure for RT Stroker, but I know his builder just did one in a big converter Vette that did 485RWHP and went 10.8 this weekend on motor and 9.91 on the bottle. Very nice car.

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
how are you guys guessing hp without the cam specs being listed?

for me i don't know my own cam spec ssh!!!! but my freind has same combo only auto but has tpis 90/90 & afr 225 heads so minas 30 cfm 5% loss auto + stick+ fast90/90 N/W and he got 490rwhp so i think the same as he got or 500 !!!!
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Don't get too caught up in the peak HP numbers as they do not play the most important role when determining a car's acceleration performance... sometimes a car with a better curve will out run another car that has a higher peak, right Rampant ?

If my Firebird still has it's little 385CI LS1 in it (assuming it does not grenade like most of ARE's recent motors) it would make for an interesting race against your big 41XCI LS2 once it comes out... by the sounds of it, it should be ready by the end of June?

STROKER R/T, I am sure you will be happy with the results... just don't fall into the dyno wars trap...
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Don't get too caught up in the peak HP numbers as they do not play the most important role when determining a car's acceleration performance... sometimes a car with a better curve will out run another car that has a higher peak, right Rampant ?

If my Firebird still has it's little 385CI LS1 in it (assuming it does not grenade like most of ARE's recent motors) it would make for an interesting race against your big 41XCI LS2 once it comes out... by the sounds of it, it should be ready by the end of June?

STROKER R/T, I am sure you will be happy with the results... just don't fall into the dyno wars trap...
you know who i am and what i had including dyno #s last year!!! there a reson i chose storker&nos you'll see !!! were on the same page . you take care of few and go after the rest thanks
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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hey rampant!!! my rotanting just got bolted in ..... tusday porting on my heads will be done were is yours at?????
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damn man, reading your posts gives me a headache.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:26 AM
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Cant wait to see what your numbers are, wondering how the afs are going to do for you over the ls6 heads.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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Don't get too caught up in the peak HP numbers as they do not play the most important role when determining a car's acceleration performance... sometimes a car with a better curve will out run another car that has a higher peak, right Rampant ?

If my Firebird still has it's little 385CI LS1 in it (assuming it does not grenade like most of ARE's recent motors) it would make for an interesting race against your big 41XCI LS2 once it comes out... by the sounds of it, it should be ready by the end of June?

STROKER R/T, I am sure you will be happy with the results... just don't fall into the dyno wars trap...
Especially if the clutch is working on one and not the other.As you know I only recently identified that problem. Not sure if it would hurt the mph or not, but it certainly hurt the shifting when compared to a street tire.

Anyway the my car has been very reliable as was yours last year, with the same tuner that did your car last year. Your little 385 may have low miles but it was put through some of the most violent wheels up launches I have ever seen, very cool by the way.

Any way no shop wars here, I'm not getting into it, as you know.

Stroker R/T I look forward to seeing yours and my numbers! My car should be a couple more weeks. At least the motor then the roll bar requirements start

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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RAMPANT

Not sure for RT Stroker, but I know his builder just did one in a big converter Vette that did 485RWHP and went 10.8 this weekend on motor and 9.91 on the bottle. Very nice car.

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Hi Rampant, I just spotted this thread. I'm sure that my car is dynoing more than 485 rwhp now, that was a prelimanarary tune and the motor was still tight, I have a NW throttle body and a fast intake I'm going to try and a few other tricks and I'm pretty sure that I'll be well over the 500 rwhp mark. My converter is only a 3500 stall(...so far) and the car ran a 10.74 @129 mph on motor and that was before the torque management was taken out of the program.

It will see 10.5 and maybe lower this season n/a.

I also predict that the current set up will see mid to low 9's on nitrous this season as well.

Not bad for an everyday street driven car.

LS2 blocks are definitely the way to go...till the LS7 becomes available. You'll know what I mean when you get yours on the road Dale...Amazing!
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dentech !!! im sure your 402 will be over 500 soon .
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Your little 385 may have low miles but it was put through some of the most violent wheels up launches I have ever seen, very cool by the way.
Who did that I wonder
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Rampant, if you really think your 12 second heads and cam Firebird is a match for my 11 second Z28, why don't you just swap your clutch and teach me a lesson once and for all! After all you went through the trouble of installing your NW TB and 90MM LSX just to take me on at drag day... we both know you out power me by 10HP...

Here's the challenge;
You can keep your 90MM LSX and NW TB along with your 15" slicks in back and skinnies up front... I'll run the stock intake and TB along with the 17x9.5" rims up front and 16" slicks in the back... what do you say?

Are you waiting for your LS2 to race me in my heads and cam Z28?
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Rampant, if you really think your 12 second heads and cam Firebird is a match for my 11 second Z28, why don't you just swap your clutch and teach me a lesson once and for all! After all you went through the trouble of installing your NW TB and 90MM LSX just to take me on at drag day... we both know you out power me by 10HP...

Here's the challenge;
You can keep your 90MM LSX and NW TB along with your 15" slicks in back and skinnies up front... I'll run the stock intake and TB along with the 17x9.5" rims up front and 16" slicks in the back... what do you say?

Are you waiting for your LS2 to race me in my heads and cam Z28?
Let me see 11sec=11.997 (just from memory)
12sec=12.023

Actual difference =0.026sec not a very big victory at different tracks on different days. But I concede that you had the better time, I'm man enough for that.


If you want to pay for the extra labor to swap my clutch out before my engine swap by all means. Other wise I have spent plenty this year and have to use some common sense with how I spend my money. I think mines faster and you think yours is faster, what ever, last year you had the best time slip, but not by much.

Keep your 385 light weight together a couple weeks and we will have a go with the big boys. Until I get booted of the track anyway.

Did you even need to have a roll bar at the last track day?

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im gessing over 500 hp with a good tune.
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