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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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What kind of power is a 90mm LS2 intake and 90mm LS2 throttle body putting down in a typical cam car over the LS6 intake. Also what do I need to do to get this to fit on a f body fuel rails, wireing harness?
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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You do not want anything to do with the ls2 intake. The ls2 makes more power with the ls6 and fast intakes. The larger throttle body will help a little. Katech knows all there is to know about ls engines and there dyno tests proved this.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Side question, if the LS2 TB is 90mm and works flawlessly with the C5s, then why would anyone buy like an LG TB, or a Nick Williams 90mm TB? Not knocking on the two vendors, as I love LG's stuff, but just wondering if the LS2 TBs are around $200 and competitors are running in excess of $500.

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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixit
Side question, if the LS2 TB is 90mm and works flawlessly with the C5s, then why would anyone buy like an LG TB, or a Nick Williams 90mm TB? Not knocking on the two vendors, as I love LG's stuff, but just wondering if the LS2 TBs are around $200 and competitors are running in excess of $500.

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good question
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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good question
Im about to put a FAST90 and wondering on this since the LS2TB is $200 and LG90mm TB is $500+

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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The LS2 seemed a lot smaller at the tb blade than my FAST 90mm is. Why not port the ls2 and save some money.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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First of all, you DO NOT want to port the LS2 throttle body. It will create some terrible tip in problems as the computer will be all over the place trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Second, Katech has an adaptor harness all made up ready to go for I think around $50.00 to plug and play the LS2 throttle body into the C5. Give Mark a call, he will hook you up. They also can get the throttle bodies for cheap as well. I believe they have a kit together of the harness and throttle body.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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The LS2 intake was a good idea but doesn't make the power that we all wanted. We did some dyno testing and this is what we found..............

Intake Test: LS2 vs LS6 vs FAST



Engine Description: GM Performance 5.7L LS1 crate engine tested with Kooks F-body 1-3/4” long tube headers with 2-1/2” lead pipes into Flowmaster mufflers. Factory front drive accessory was used with the water pump, power steering, and alternator. Stock LS1 heads and short block, GM Performance “Hot Cam” with LS6 valve springs are the only engine upgrades.

Engine was tested using the factory PCM. The intent was to test the intakes just as the average user would install them --- no custom programming. Granted, custom programming would increase the power of each combination somewhat, as the detailed info from the tests indicates that each intake had some “holes” in specific RPM ranges that could be corrected to improve the HP of each intake. But in the end, the general tendencies would remain as they are. We have over 30-pages of test info for those who want to dig-in to the detailed data and we would be more than happy to mail this info to anyone who wants to see it for the price of the copies plus postage.
We have summarized the test for your viewing pleasure.
Some points to keep in mind; we have included averages for specific RPM ranges – Low, Mid, and High. The engine does not stay at a constant RPM, so we feel it is important to see these numbers. Hey, if you leave the starting line at 4500 and shift at 6300, then it might be nice to see the average for that range!
Do not forget, this is a 5.7L with a rather mild cam upgrade! Engines with different RPM ranges and more cubic inches may have totally different results. We are just reporting what we tested. And BTW, we will have some intake results for a 6.0L LS2 very soon!

Test 1 – LS6 Intake with Stock 78mm TB.
The best low and mid range numbers of all the combinations. The LS6 would seem to be the best bet for all-around street driving/racing on this combination. As the engine moves past the 6000 rpm range, the LS6 plenum volume may not be large enough to keep up with the demand for more air. The LS6 made the highest peak torque number.

Test 2 – LS2 Intake with Stock 78mm TB.
We made a thin adapter to bolt the 78mm TB onto the LS2 intake to see the real comparison from LS6 to LS2.
Want to kill 10hp and 10ft-lbs of torque? That is what happened! Obviously the 5.7L does not like this big intake. We thought the 78mm TB might help by keeping the air velocity up on this big plenum intake. Did not work!

Test 3 – LS2 Intake with FAST 90mm TB.
As long as we were here, let’s try it!
Our intuition told us that this probably would not work and it didn’t! But it is interesting to note that the power was not significantly hurt from the addition of a bigger TB either. In fact the two curves are almost identical.

Test 4 –FAST with the FAST 90mm TB.
Now it is obvious that the FAST wants to make more power up high --- above 6000rpm. But when you look at the low and mid range the LS6 is definitely better, but when you hit 4000rpm the FAST wants to carry the torque curve further than the LS6. The FAST made the highest peak HP number, 432hp @ 6000rpm.

Lots to discuss here; plenum volumes, runner lengths, TB sizes, what would ported heads do, etc. We have heard of people bolting on the LS2 intake to a 5.7L and the car felt lazy, it is easy to see why! The engine lost torque everywhere!
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Forced induction on the other hand has shown significant gains in the higher r.p.m. range. Cablebandit put it on his Incon kit and put 25-30 more h.p. down. He lost some bottom end and that is what he needs on his "pig" of a car. I am going to be running the LS2 intake with 25 psi here soon and will get back with you guys on this. I also have a LS6 and LS1 intakes available..
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Thanks Kris very informative info
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixit
Im about to put a FAST90 and wondering on this since the LS2TB is $200 and LG90mm TB is $500+

Dixit
NW will tell you that there is, with his C5 TB, a 5 hp or so difference and
it's more responsive. If that doesn't matter and for most it doesn't, get the LS2 TB.
The LS2 TB is smaller around the blade, but you cannot touch that area.
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