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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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Just wondering if the Ls& Manifold is available yet? if so how much:?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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what I heard is that the parts wont be available till the first Z06 hits the showroom floor but sdpc has a huge thread on the ls7 crate motor that will proly be the first place that the part number and price will show up at.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Why?

It is made specifically for the LS7 and I am not sure it would even fit an LS2/6 or 1..
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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The LS7 intake should hit about the same time as the cylinder heads. To be honest, I doubt we will see them until the first of the year. They will release the production (crate) motor first.

The LS7 intake port is designed for the LS7 head only. Not only is the port different, but the bolt pattern isn't the same. The LS7 heads are on a 11 deg valve angle so custom pistons will be a must.
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Are you referring to the bolt pattern head to block or head to intake?
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by marco427
Are you referring to the bolt pattern head to block or head to intake?
Head to intake. Head to block is the same.
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Originally Posted by KJ@SDPC
The LS7 intake should hit about the same time as the cylinder heads. To be honest, I doubt we will see them until the first of the year. They will release the production (crate) motor first.

The LS7 intake port is designed for the LS7 head only. Not only is the port different, but the bolt pattern isn't the same. The LS7 heads are on a 11 deg valve angle so custom pistons will be a must.
The heads wont fit on an LS6/2 or 1 either
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
The heads wont fit on an LS6/2 or 1 either
Is this confirmed? I was waiting and looking around to find out. I know I would need pistons but wasnt sure what else or if they would work. Why wont they work?
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Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1
The heads wont fit on an LS6/2 or 1 either
The cylinder heads are set up for a big bore. You could make them work with a set of custom pistons, and notch the block for the valves. The realy cool thing to keep in mind is, GM is also going to release the new truck head about the same time. I can't say alot about it yet oher than t will flow close to what an LS7 will and it is built for a smaller bore block (3.910 - 4.060). Both of them will use an off set rocker arm, and the truck head will again have it's own intake. The LS7 manafold will not work from what we can see.
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Originally Posted by KJ@SDPC
The cylinder heads are set up for a big bore. You could make them work with a set of custom pistons, and notch the block for the valves. The realy cool thing to keep in mind is, GM is also going to release the new truck head about the same time. I can't say alot about it yet oher than t will flow close to what an LS7 will and it is built for a smaller bore block (3.910 - 4.060). Both of them will use an off set rocker arm, and the truck head will again have it's own intake. The LS7 manafold will not work from what we can see.
Correct.. I should have said they will not fit without a LOT of work.. More work than it is worth IMO..

I got my info from GM when I was in Wixom building an LS7..
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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So whats the scoop steve? the bolt pattern is the same, I see no reason you could not retrofit them to the LS1/2/6 unless there is more than meets the eye such as coolant flow or valvetrain stuff.

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Quote: The heads wont fit on an LS6/2 or 1 either.

If bore size is the only problem, am I correct in assuming that they should fit on my C5R block.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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So whats the scoop steve? the bolt pattern is the same, I see no reason you could not retrofit them to the LS1/2/6 unless there is more than meets the eye such as coolant flow or valvetrain stuff.
I was just told the LS7 intake on a LS2 would be a waste of time.. remember that the main difference is that the LS7 heads have HUGE ports and the intake is designed to match these. Sticking them on LS2/6 heads would not yield anything..

Besides.. if an LS6 intake makes more power than a LS2 intake then how much better would an LS7 intake be that has the same LS2 runner design?

Also, arnt the LS7 heads taller, I don't know but wouldn't that change the overall design angles on the LS7 intake??

I will as my GM engineer guy this question.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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So whats the scoop steve? the bolt pattern is the same, I see no reason you could not retrofit them to the LS1/2/6 unless there is more than meets the eye such as coolant flow or valvetrain stuff.
Oh, I assumed you were speaking of the intake and not the heads.. I KNOW the heads would be very very very hard to get on an LS2/6/1.. I won't say impossible since nothing really is but not worth the effort IMO..
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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what about a 408 iron block? Would I have to notch it to make them fit? I plan on useing alot of nitrous so I want the stonger block.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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You forget who you are talking to

The manifold is LS7-LS7 only, too many differences. This we know.

What we dont know is if the heads will bolt to a LS1/2/6 motor. Bolt pattern is the same. The other things, I do not know but I can ask is the water jackets, and valvetrain stuff. I see no reason for them to change it from the C5R stuff since that is where the R&D went on, so im ASSUMING they will bolt right on with the new intake and rockers, provided you know what you are doing with the valve angles and Compression
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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I'll have to wait and see, and see what all the people with $ find out when they try it first.
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THE LS7 MANIFOLD IS ONLY MADE TO FIT THE LS7 PORT AND INTAKE BOLT PATTERN.

THE LS7 HEAD HAS A WIDE 1.960 GUIDE SPACING. THAT WOULD REALLY SHROUD THE VALVES ON A SMALL BORE.

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WE HAVE MODIFIED THE GUIDE SPACING, VALVE SIZE AND PORT SIZE AFTER THE OPENING TO WORK IN OUR NEW CASTING. IT FITS IN OUR C5R STYLE CASTING. WE HAVE ALSO ADDED A LITTLE DECK THICKNESS TO IT TO BRING THE CHAMBER VOLUME BACK UP TO 72CC. iT AS WELL WILL USE THE OFFSET ROCKER ARM AND FLOW ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE BIG VALVE LS7. ALSO INCORPORATING THE .750 DECK AND LARGE DIAMETER SRRING PADS WITH THE TALLER VALVE COVER RAIL. SO AS SOON AS THE INTAKE MANIFOLDS ARE RELEASED, IF OURS ISN'T BEFORE THEN ALL YOU GUYS THAT WANT TO MAKE A "LS7" 402 COMBO WILL BE ABLE TO DO JUST THAT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE GM PRODUCTION LS7 HEAD IS A LIGHT WEIGHT CASTING AND WILL HAVE ALL THE SAME ISSUES WITH HEAD GASKETS AND OTHER ASSOCIATED PROBLEMS THAT THE OTHER STOCK CASTINGS HAVE.

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The real question is, will the ls7 manifold fit on the c5r heads?
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Originally Posted by 11sHSV
The real question is, will the ls7 manifold fit on the c5r heads?
no it wont, the bolt pattern is different
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