lS7 Crate motor
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lS7 Crate motor 
I just returned from Hot August Nights in Reno, talked to the GM Performance guy there, he said GM and the Unions are at odds over building the LS7. GM wants them built on Saturday (???) and the union will not agree, his boss, the lady that runs the department says there will be no crate motord for at least a year or so (or longer). They will heve direct replacements for sold cars but none to sell. That runed my whole week end.Tom
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Originally Posted by 502454
I just returned from Hot August Nights in Reno, talked to the GM Performance guy there, he said GM and the Unions are at odds over building the LS7. GM wants them built on Saturday (???) and the union will not agree, his boss, the lady that runs the department says there will be no crate motord for at least a year or so (or longer). They will heve direct replacements for sold cars but none to sell. That runed my whole week end.Tom
GM IS going to only make a few of these in this year.So do not loose hope,you will need to stay on top of this and get in line as the line will be long.They are making them and they will be hard to get.We are not taking orders at this time as we are waiting on how many we will actually get,but hopefully in the next 30-days everyone will know this is for real!!
take care!
BARRY
I'm in agreement with CROW. If you watch the news documentary with News 4, they state 15 UAW workers are assigned to making these engines with capability to assemble 15 engines per day per line. Not that they're going to work at max. capacity (225 motors per day) but it's possible for them to pump out at least 150-200.
To me, 200 motors per day for 15 workers sounds like a Monday through Friday full time job just to meet production (not just producing them on Saturday). I think they will have a few left to meet the 4 per top 10 GM Aftermarket Re-Sellers.
To me, 200 motors per day for 15 workers sounds like a Monday through Friday full time job just to meet production (not just producing them on Saturday). I think they will have a few left to meet the 4 per top 10 GM Aftermarket Re-Sellers.
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Originally Posted by NOSjohn
I'm in agreement with CROW. If you watch the news documentary with News 4, they state 15 UAW workers are assigned to making these engines with capability to assemble 15 engines per day per line. Not that they're going to work at max. capacity (225 motors per day) but it's possible for them to pump out at least 150-200.
To me, 200 motors per day for 15 workers sounds like a Monday through Friday full time job just to meet production (not just producting them on Saturday). I think they will have a few left to meet the 4 per top 10 GM Aftermarket Re-Sellers.
To me, 200 motors per day for 15 workers sounds like a Monday through Friday full time job just to meet production (not just producting them on Saturday). I think they will have a few left to meet the 4 per top 10 GM Aftermarket Re-Sellers.
Good luck to the people who get them!!
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Bummer. Barry, any more news on the possible block only? What about you and your other cohorts (sp?) @ SDPC as far as working with GMPP for an aftermarket raceblock?? Keep the info rolling!
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Originally Posted by Orange Terror
Sorry, I hate to dog unions, but they work for GM. So if GM wants them to do it they should, or find a knew job.
Hey Barry, do you even have pricing on the LS7 yet then?
Hey Barry, do you even have pricing on the LS7 yet then?
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LS7 Crate motor The GM rep. was very convincing; I was trying to get an "in" with him on getting one also. He recommended going another route because "it's not going to happen any time soon". His boss is the head of the department and should know what’s going on, if that is possible at GM.
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Nobody has figured out how to tune with the new corporate reluctor wheel in the LS7 yet have they?... especially utilizing current PCM's... or determined if the older reluctor wheel can be swapped in. Hopefully the first few motors will go to tuner shops who will publicly share new info... if some sort of arrangement hasn't been worked out already. For those interested in GENIII F or Y Body or truck platform swaps - accessory drive alignment questions asked in older threads still have not been addressed. The front of the LS7 motor (front cover/balancer) is completely different than any current GENIII/IV. Also, no information has made its way out yet as to whether the motor is reverse compatible to wet sump using a single rotor pump, LS2 front cover, and your flavor harmonic balancer and pan... and if it was possible would take additional effort... because the dip stick tube hole has not been machined out on the LS7 block. Remember, oil "level" is checked in the remote reservoir on the LS7.
The LS7 block, heads, and intake manifold are going to be the hot tickets... whenever they become available...
The LS7 block, heads, and intake manifold are going to be the hot tickets... whenever they become available...
Originally Posted by Orange Terror
Sorry, I hate to dog unions, but they work for GM. So if GM wants them to do it they should, or find a knew job.
but I knew this would come out once someone said "union". 
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
This coming from someone who obviouslly isn't a union worker. Union workers are going to abide by there contract, cause once they give up something, like weekends off, they'll never get it back. If it weren't for th e uninon, these guys would be making minimum wage. Sorry for the but I knew this would come out once someone said "union".
but I knew this would come out once someone said "union".
Originally Posted by NOSjohn
I'm in agreement with CROW. If you watch the news documentary with News 4, they state 15 UAW workers are assigned to making these engines with capability to assemble 15 engines per day per line. Not that they're going to work at max. capacity (225 motors per day) but it's possible for them to pump out at least 150-200.
To me, 200 motors per day for 15 workers sounds like a Monday through Friday full time job just to meet production (not just producing them on Saturday). I think they will have a few left to meet the 4 per top 10 GM Aftermarket Re-Sellers.
To me, 200 motors per day for 15 workers sounds like a Monday through Friday full time job just to meet production (not just producing them on Saturday). I think they will have a few left to meet the 4 per top 10 GM Aftermarket Re-Sellers.
FYI you are way off on your production numbers sir..
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car prices are so high because automakers like to stick it to us. has nothing to do with union labor. yea, it might be a little more, but the big wigs like to line their pockets more and more every year.
why dont they want to work saturdays. is gm only offering them straight time or forcing them to? i work a couple sats. a month for the extra money, volunteraly. if someones gonna force me to work saturdays, i would say no too.
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why dont they want to work saturdays. is gm only offering them straight time or forcing them to? i work a couple sats. a month for the extra money, volunteraly. if someones gonna force me to work saturdays, i would say no too.
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Originally Posted by slt200mph
FYI you are way off on your production numbers sir..
I have no idea how many engines they are making, nor does anyone else, except Bearman - who works on the line. I may pose this question to him tonight.
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These engines will be built in an environment removed from normal production lines at the new GM Performance Build Center in Wixom, Michigan.
These engines will have a specific skilled builder personally involved with each aspect of each build. The builder(s) signs off on each unit and documents who on his team built it.
Each unit is run for 20 minutes before final approval.
So sayeth Timothy Schag the new sites manager as printed in April's Popular Hot Rodding.
These engines will have a specific skilled builder personally involved with each aspect of each build. The builder(s) signs off on each unit and documents who on his team built it.
Each unit is run for 20 minutes before final approval.
So sayeth Timothy Schag the new sites manager as printed in April's Popular Hot Rodding.