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Old 01-14-2006 | 12:44 PM
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I bought a TR Trak cam to put in my 402. 232/236 .649/.598 111ls I usally see people with more duration, I am not worried about the lift I'm sure its enough. Is this cam going to produce the power I want. Keep in mind I want this car to be driveable everday if I choose. Thanks!
Old 01-14-2006 | 01:11 PM
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You can bigger and I suggest that you do.
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Why is it that that most people think the power comes from a bigger and bigger camshaft? You should ask yourself with that camshaft....do you have enough cylinder head? That camshaft will make more than enough power and more tq than a larger camshaft. Its the runners where you will kill it.

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I still say bigger.
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find out what your heads flow at say 600 lift and then at 625 650 whereever. then who ever flowin your heads can tell you how big you want too big wont do ne more than a slightly smaller cam and might hurt ya but probably not by much. on the lsa part a 113 gonna make power in a lower rpm range and a 111 or 112 will make power in alittle higher range
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Why is it that that most people think the power comes from a bigger and bigger camshaft? You should ask yourself with that camshaft....do you have enough cylinder head? That camshaft will make more than enough power and more tq than a larger camshaft. Its the runners where you will kill it.

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I agree .If you are looking for a everyday driver with good lowend. you don't need such a big cam unless you are planing to make this a 1/4 mile car.
Old 01-15-2006 | 10:33 AM
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I know you guys are going to shoot this down but for the time I have to run a stock LS1 head. This motor was not planned so I do not have the funds for the heads I want (etp 225). Had some form of oiling problem, spun 4 rods and 2 mains. I know the car is going to be choked off bad but one step at a time, not made of money right now. Shane at Thunder told about the cam, he knows my set up very well, he said it should make decent numbers still, but numbers will start falling early because of the heads, oh and he said I could get away with stock injectors untill I put heads. Do you think thats correct? One more thing any ideas about how much hp and tq it should make with this set up? Thanks!!!!!!
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I ran my old heads for my 402 for a little while and it was fine. Do what you need to do to get your car up and running. Your car is not going to do you ne good just sitting there. You will be around 435-450 rwhp will stock ls1 heads.
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That cam will work great with a 400+ inch motor, especially with that aggressive LSK lobe on the intake. It will basically be like a 224 cam in a 346 which as we know makes very good power and has supreme driving manners. The power you make now is going to be limited by running stock cylinder heads, but your added cubes are going to make it a blast on the street. I say Shane gave you some very sound advice.
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The cam will be fine, but the stock injectors won't work in the upper rpm range.
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well with that trak cam a buddy of mine from here in laredo....is running a 2002 ceta with a stock 346 with that trak cam and a spec 3 clutch...bmr torque arm with bmr adjustable panhard bar and lower control arms.....hooker lt's with a 3inch y with a bullet before the axle and an asp underdrive pulley...other than that he is running stock heads,intake,injectors,shortblock,....and he managed to run a 11.80 with that Trak cam on all motor and a 10.80 with a 150 dry shot a week ago ,he's already orderd the afr 205's and athe fast 90 intake with the nick williams 90mm throttle body....man he should be running damn good numbers with the heads and intake swap,and plus he ran those numbers untuned...i think he is planning to go to HPE to get it tuned once he swaps the heads and intake..

Trak cam gets two thumbs way up from us laredo,tx ls1 guys!!!
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With the larger cubes will effect my idle. I had a 224 cam in my 346 and it sounded good but it did not hit hard enough at idle. I know the TRak cam is larger, but I was worried that extra cubes would tame the idle of that cam. I want the motor to hit harder at idle than my 224 346 cube did.
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If you want more lope, lower the idle speed. If 900 rpm is too smooth, lower it to 800, it's as simple as that. A 224 cam in a 346 sounds mean as **** with a 600 rpm idle, LOL.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
If you want more lope, lower the idle speed. If 900 rpm is too smooth, lower it to 800, it's as simple as that. A 224 cam in a 346 sounds mean as **** with a 600 rpm idle, LOL.
Thats freaking good. I am going to remember that one the next time a customer demands a lopy camshaft. 300RPM idle on a stock cam, here we come.

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