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07-17-2006, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
$7k for a short block doesn't sound like much of a "Budget" 
How is that cheaper than using a LS7 block?
For most people, including myself, using the term "Budget 427" means the least expensive way to get 427 cubes.
I guess my only concern is the vauge use of the word 'budget'.
How is that cheaper than using a LS7 block?
For most people, including myself, using the term "Budget 427" means the least expensive way to get 427 cubes.
I guess my only concern is the vauge use of the word 'budget'.
07-17-2006, 01:50 PM
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Is this short block going to be offered with different pistons for people wanting to do FI to say 15psi (and will all the components be strong enough for 900 FWHP)? I'm interested because for me to have a MID wet sleeved 427 LS1 short block built with callies rods, dragonslayer crank, Diamond -15cc pistons, callies billet mains will run close to 7,000 plus assembly. I'm waiting to see the price and complete parts list (I saw the list you posted on the last page, but are you using stock mains or your billet mains?).
07-17-2006, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GrnDragon
Is this short block going to be offered with different pistons for people wanting to do FI to say 15psi (and will all the components be strong enough for 900 FWHP)? I'm interested because for me to have a MID wet sleeved 427 LS1 short block built with callies rods, dragonslayer crank, Diamond -15cc pistons, callies billet mains will run close to 7,000 plus assembly. I'm waiting to see the price and complete parts list (I saw the list you posted on the last page, but are you using stock mains or your billet mains?).
Yes, we could build with a different piston if you want to run FI.
900fwhp? dare I ask?
07-17-2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Katech
Stock mains. Billet mains are optional.
Yes, we could build with a different piston if you want to run FI.
900fwhp? dare I ask?
Yes, we could build with a different piston if you want to run FI.
900fwhp? dare I ask?
When I hear all the naysayers it just gives me more desire to do it.
I am still interested in seeing the price! And how much the upgrade to your billet mains would be (or if they are necessary for 900 FWHP on street tires, really never going to see slicks/wrinkle walls). Although they are 345's...
This is more of an ultimate street car, with the ability to race on any type of track if the mood strikes.
07-17-2006, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GrnDragon
All I want to say is it is a Supercharger that noone thinks can fit in an Fbody...
When I hear all the naysayers it just gives me more desire to do it.
I am still interested in seeing the price! And how much the upgrade to your billet mains would be (or if they are necessary for 900 FWHP on street tires, really never going to see slicks/wrinkle walls). Although they are 345's...
This is more of an ultimate street car, with the ability to race on any type of track if the mood strikes.
When I hear all the naysayers it just gives me more desire to do it.
I am still interested in seeing the price! And how much the upgrade to your billet mains would be (or if they are necessary for 900 FWHP on street tires, really never going to see slicks/wrinkle walls). Although they are 345's...
This is more of an ultimate street car, with the ability to race on any type of track if the mood strikes.
07-17-2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Katech
Katech resleeved LS2 cylinder case 4.125
-Dry sleeved
-Double vacuum impregnated
-decked
-clearanced for 4.000" stroke
-utilizes production main caps
Cola 4.000" stroke crankshaft
Callies H-beam rods
Katech forged pistons
Federal mogul / Clevite bearings
Precision race engine assembly by the same engine builders that build for ALMS, World Challenge and Grand Am.
We are building today and I will be making announcements very soon.
-Dry sleeved
-Double vacuum impregnated
-decked
-clearanced for 4.000" stroke
-utilizes production main caps
Cola 4.000" stroke crankshaft
Callies H-beam rods
Katech forged pistons
Federal mogul / Clevite bearings
Precision race engine assembly by the same engine builders that build for ALMS, World Challenge and Grand Am.
We are building today and I will be making announcements very soon.
Jason
That sounds like what I may be looking for. No need too pass immissions.
TIA
Tom
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07-18-2006, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Karlo
some company I read today has a 427 LS2 SHORTBLOCK PACKAGE: $6,399.00 USD 
Am I missing something here, but we have LS2 402 shortblocks at $4100, sleeving a LS2 cost less than $2k, then why don't we see sleeved LS2 427 shortblocks for less than $6000?
I know Katech spends more time on their engines than the average, so "less than $7000" is considered "budget". I bet a lot of us here would pay a little extra knowing the work and experience that has gone through our engines.
07-18-2006, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by VictionOne
. . . I bet a lot of us here would pay a little extra knowing the work and experience that has gone through our engines.
07-18-2006, 06:30 AM
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Budget would be using a LS7 block and Eagle 4.00 crank. That will keep costs down and would make 95% of the people on this board very happy. Not everyone needs a 1000+HP short block.
GM probably spent 10s of millions to develop the LS7 block/engine, I tend to believe that they know what they are doing. GM was the one that came up with the LSx design, no one else.
GM probably spent 10s of millions to develop the LS7 block/engine, I tend to believe that they know what they are doing. GM was the one that came up with the LSx design, no one else.
07-18-2006, 06:39 AM
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So if you already have an LS2 (C6 Corvette) what would YOU do?
Go with an FI system off the bat, look to build to a 402/408/427, or just do a H/C and call it a day?
Go with an FI system off the bat, look to build to a 402/408/427, or just do a H/C and call it a day?
07-18-2006, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Budget would be using a LS7 block and Eagle 4.00 crank. That will keep costs down and would make 95% of the people on this board very happy. Not everyone needs a 1000+HP short block.
GM probably spent 10s of millions to develop the LS7 block/engine, I tend to believe that they know what they are doing. GM was the one that came up with the LSx design, no one else.
GM probably spent 10s of millions to develop the LS7 block/engine, I tend to believe that they know what they are doing. GM was the one that came up with the LSx design, no one else.
07-18-2006, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Karlo
some company I read today has a 427 LS2 SHORTBLOCK PACKAGE: $6,399.00 USD
07-18-2006, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Budget would be using a LS7 block and Eagle 4.00 crank. That will keep costs down and would make 95% of the people on this board very happy. Not everyone needs a 1000+HP short block.
GM probably spent 10s of millions to develop the LS7 block/engine, I tend to believe that they know what they are doing. GM was the one that came up with the LSx design, no one else.
GM probably spent 10s of millions to develop the LS7 block/engine, I tend to believe that they know what they are doing. GM was the one that came up with the LSx design, no one else.
no.
budget would be a L92 block and a eagle 4.125" crank.
it wouldnt have the nicer huge bore, but it would still make great power, and it wouldnt cost any more then a 408 or other stock GM block motor to build.
in anycase, over the next couple years, im expecting stock GM parts to leap forward in power producing ability again... i may never afford the cutting edge best.. but im not going to go slow. LOL.
07-18-2006, 08:55 AM
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This is what is included for $6399.oo. Maybe parts are cheaper in Canada?
Eagle 4340 4" Stroke Crankshaft
Dry-Sleeve LS2 4.125" Bore Block
Compstar 4340 Rods
Forged Lightweight Pistons & Moly Rings
H-Series Race Bearings
ARP Main Studs
Internally Balanced Rotating Assembly
Professionally Assembled Short Block (no core required)
Engine Blue-Printed
Eagle 4340 4" Stroke Crankshaft
Dry-Sleeve LS2 4.125" Bore Block
Compstar 4340 Rods
Forged Lightweight Pistons & Moly Rings
H-Series Race Bearings
ARP Main Studs
Internally Balanced Rotating Assembly
Professionally Assembled Short Block (no core required)
Engine Blue-Printed