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Old 07-27-2006, 04:01 PM
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wow, they get all the coin. amazing how they are so much more then small blocks ect. id rather run a small block. for 2k lol
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The alternatives in aluminum LS are C5R at 35% more or billet.
Our aluminum SBC is $3700.
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It's abrand new thing too Brad, I'm sure that the price over time will come down some, these types of things usually do. Look @ all the lsx stuff laready, 3 years ago there was no way that ou could get Gm 243 castings for as cheap as you can now.


Brad you should think about building one of these, with the 6 bolt world heads and the carb intake that they will follow to go with them. I'd love to see what kind of power ken coudl make with one of these setups, I'm guessing that he could build you a n/a setup with one of these with some monster CI that would outrun your best nitrous time without a doubt, and all you'd have to do is rering and rebearing the thing, and replace the valvesprings on a regular regiment, and you could run for a long time with it.

Spray on a motor of that size, you'd best be thinking about doing to your car what he's doing to the hoss... I doubt a stock suspension car could effeciently use all the power that could be made.
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Originally Posted by MerlinPro
The alternatives in aluminum LS are C5R at 35% more or billet.
Our aluminum SBC is $3700.
either way, its big bucks. **** i'll get a small ford block for 2 k, carry a little weight, and be able to race fun ford and super chevy. lol

i know they are a good idea for sure, esp with the 6 head bolts. just out of my price range for this season
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Cool. I was unaware that only the LS7X head would have the 6th stud in the floor of the intake runner. Still nice to see 5 studs/bolts per cylinder for the LS1X heads .
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The ls1x heads do not have 5 bolts per cylinder. They have 4, we felt putting the 5th bolt on without having an opposing bolt would be an unwise thing to do. Because of the narrow, tall cathedral shape port configuration and position we decided not to put the additional bolts on this particular head.
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There is stil a 6 bolt head that is gonna matchup to the block though yes?
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Yes, look at the head pics, you can see the one front bolt down low....The other is in the intake port
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with the way that warhawk 1 made it sound, it sounded like they were gonna bail out on the 6 bolt heads.... that would be bad.
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Guys,
If you look at the pics closely you will see 1 LS1x and 1 LS7X head. The lS7X head is the one with the additional bolt holes. The LS1X head was never designed or advertised with additional head bolts. The extra head bolts are a LS7X cylindeer head feature.

Again LS1X cylinder head 4 bolts per cylinder
LS7X cylinder head 6 bolts per cylinder

The block will accept any of the heads on the market. Obviously we'd prefer if you bought ours
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Thanks for clearing that up.. I was confused, I thought both the heads you were gonna offer were going ot have the ability to utilize the 6 bolt setup.

As for people buying your heads... if they outperform everyone elses, or at least perform the same but can use all 6 bolts that your block has the ability to do, then I think you'll be selling as many or more of the heads then you will the blocks.


I for one, will someday build a massive CI setup to see just how fast one can go with an all motor lsx setup on pump gas, and this block is gonna be a must.
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So what is the MAX safe bore for the 9.24 deck height block? and what about the stroke how big can you go?
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At this point we're sticking to 4.125 X4.100 in the 9.24, 438.
Customers are free to experiment with other possibilities.
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Sorry, that's with a 6.00 rod x 1.180 pin.
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Originally Posted by MerlinPro
At this point we're sticking to 4.125 X4.100 in the 9.24, 438.
Customers are free to experiment with other possibilities.
So will the factory LS7 rods work on a 4.100 in. stroke crank and still have plenty of clearance?
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very nice
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Originally Posted by Warhawk 1
Guys,
If you look at the pics closely you will see 1 LS1x and 1 LS7X head. The lS7X head is the one with the additional bolt holes. The LS1X head was never designed or advertised with additional head bolts. The extra head bolts are a LS7X cylindeer head feature.

Again LS1X cylinder head 4 bolts per cylinder
LS7X cylinder head 6 bolts per cylinder

The block will accept any of the heads on the market. Obviously we'd prefer if you bought ours
OK I see now. The pics you posted were of an LS1X head on top intake side, and LS7X on bottom exhaust side. Can't see the 6th bolt on the LS7X head because the exhaust side is facing the camera .
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Originally Posted by MerlinPro
To those of you who’ve been anxiously awaiting Warhawk, and kind enough to tolerate the delays, we’re happy to tell (and show) you what we promised in “Warhawk Answers”, in May.
Seen below are one of three 9.24 deck blocks and one each of LS1X and LS7X heads, in our building. They are undergoing PPAP (pre-production approval) evaluation to determine suitability for production and distribution.
I’m told by Warhawk 1 that the LS1X heads are in very good tolerance, require no foundry changes and only the most minor (and quick) machining adjustments. The first batch of 60 is being machined now.
The LS7X is being examined carefully for a machine problem which may stem from a needed pattern change. If it goes well, 30 days to production (after approval) is about right.
The blocks are very good too, (In fact, I spent most of the day taking photos of #2 for our catalogs and web sites) mostly requiring minor machining changes, but a fair amount of them. The block pictured is the goat for mock-up of the rotating assembly and that process is going forward as you read this. The heads will be flowed in a program while the corrections proceed. The numbers will be posted here when WorldTech is satisfied with them. My highest priority at the moment is to be involved with Warhawk 1 to create the spec and procedure sheets that will accompany each block and head set.
Now, at the end of July, we’re showing you this progress a little ahead of the block release time and right at the head release time we promised in May.
WorldTech has decided to release information at this time in the belief that the “faithful” deserve the truth-as soon as we could show the evidence. So here it is.
Now, we’re NOT saying these chunks will be in your hands tomorrow-it’s no BS, there’s plenty of work yet to be done-but here’s what we can tell you at this time.
The 15 deg. heads are not far off-a few weeks, at most we feel. Bear in mind that when we sign-off, production will ramp-up after a small initial run at the foundry level. Then too, the orders will be filled in chronological order of receipt.
The blocks are a little further out-I can’t say for sure when YET, but I’ll post here ASAP. Same thing-small initial batch but in September we’ll be throwin’ em out the door. Also remember, these are the 9.24’s-the tall decks will be PPAP’d as soon as we get one but the entire production process of the 9.24 must be approved before the 9.80 deck process can begin. So, a little good news and a little less-good news.
Bottom line-good news or not, we’re not scamming you guys and we’ll show you stuff as soon as we get it.
Thanks for your patience.



MerlinPro,

Is it definate that the block will be ready around September? Also, can we order them now?
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Too little too late for me... No matter what the cost.
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c5,
As Dune eloquently points out - you lose friends when you make promises based on other folks responsibility with your design. We won't say "definitely" anymore.
Foundry tells of end of Sept right now, machining center waiting and ready with corrected parameters.
I'll post more pics soon as mock-up of prototypes continues here.


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