New GMPP LSX Block
Originally Posted by J-Rod
Well, the possibilities here are endless. This opens the door not only for development at the highest level (read that as Cup teams), but the net effect is that racing improves the breed. That means we (as the end users) get access to better and better products. Look at the current surplus parts (like rods and sb2.2 stuff) you can buy from cup teams. Imagine being able to buy ls specific hard parts from your favorite (or heck even un-favorite teams).
"Uncle Robin", welcome to the site. Your exploits in the Ford world are well known, and your prescence along with your info and insight is greatly appreciated.
"Uncle Robin", welcome to the site. Your exploits in the Ford world are well known, and your prescence along with your info and insight is greatly appreciated.
You are echoing my thoughts sir!...
Originally Posted by ScottyRocket
The boy in NC have already submitted a new engine to the guys running the show. They are saying they need to keep up with Toyota and their cup engine is way ahead of everyone else already.
They also have a "Spec" LS based engine coming out for one of their touring circle track series.
They also have a "Spec" LS based engine coming out for one of their touring circle track series.
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
How doesn't that suprise me..... after they didn't let the ROX block in after multiple revisions to it. I agree that they need to keep the motor DESIGN up with Toyota and Mopar. Also the rumor that once the big 3 have pony cars back in production that the Busch series will adapt that body style to keep the series from being a slower testing ground for the Cup boys.
Originally Posted by 383ss
that would be cool as hell
cool until they start curving the retro themes to be more aerodynamic for racing... look at the monte carlo for a perfect example.
heh, i like non-aerodynamic, brick shaped cars.
Originally Posted by MrDude_1
uhh, yea.
cool until they start curving the retro themes to be more aerodynamic for racing... look at the monte carlo for a perfect example.
heh, i like non-aerodynamic, brick shaped cars.
cool until they start curving the retro themes to be more aerodynamic for racing... look at the monte carlo for a perfect example.
heh, i like non-aerodynamic, brick shaped cars.
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My guess is that with the COT crap they have coming out next year, they will get a wake up call as the ratings will be in the tank for those races. The things are just plain ugly and very Import Tuner car looking.
http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2006/COT.htm
The bush series may very well end up more stock appearing than they do now after the COT flops.
Anyway, why would GM release this block in the spring? Wouldn't they want people building engines over the winter?
http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2006/COT.htm
The bush series may very well end up more stock appearing than they do now after the COT flops.
Anyway, why would GM release this block in the spring? Wouldn't they want people building engines over the winter?
Last edited by ScottyRocket; Aug 24, 2006 at 03:56 PM.
Originally Posted by ScottyRocket
My guess is that with the COT crap they have coming out next year, they will get a wake up call as the ratings will be in the tank for those races. The things are just plain ugly and very Import Tuner car looking.
http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2006/COT.htm
The bush series may very well end up more stock appearing that they do now after the COT flops.
Anyway, why would GM release this block in the spring? Wouldn't they want people building engines over the winter?
http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2006/COT.htm
The bush series may very well end up more stock appearing that they do now after the COT flops.
Anyway, why would GM release this block in the spring? Wouldn't they want people building engines over the winter?
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I wish NASCAR went back to the days of the 60s and 70s when the cars were nearly identical to the production car bodies. That would force the big three to actually build aerodynamic cars.
And lets get real, why the hell are they racing 4 door sedans when they should be calling the cars Mustangs, Camaro's, and Challengers. NASCAR is too concerned with making everyone even and equal, so all the cars end up looking identical rather than actually having styling that represents street cars.
I am happy to see that GM has gotten back into the aftermarket performance v8 market. It looked like Dodge and Ford had taken over for a while with all of the SVT and SRT stuff.
And lets get real, why the hell are they racing 4 door sedans when they should be calling the cars Mustangs, Camaro's, and Challengers. NASCAR is too concerned with making everyone even and equal, so all the cars end up looking identical rather than actually having styling that represents street cars.
I am happy to see that GM has gotten back into the aftermarket performance v8 market. It looked like Dodge and Ford had taken over for a while with all of the SVT and SRT stuff.
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I wish NASCAR went back to the days of the 60s and 70s when the cars were nearly identical to the production car bodies. That would force the big three to actually build aerodynamic cars.
And lets get real, why the hell are they racing 4 door sedans when they should be calling the cars Mustangs, Camaro's, and Challengers. NASCAR is too concerned with making everyone even and equal, so all the cars end up looking identical rather than actually having styling that represents street cars.
I am happy to see that GM has gotten back into the aftermarket performance v8 market. It looked like Dodge and Ford had taken over for a while with all of the SVT and SRT stuff.
And lets get real, why the hell are they racing 4 door sedans when they should be calling the cars Mustangs, Camaro's, and Challengers. NASCAR is too concerned with making everyone even and equal, so all the cars end up looking identical rather than actually having styling that represents street cars.
I am happy to see that GM has gotten back into the aftermarket performance v8 market. It looked like Dodge and Ford had taken over for a while with all of the SVT and SRT stuff.
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I wish NASCAR went back to the days of the 60s and 70s when the cars were nearly identical to the production car bodies. That would force the big three to actually build aerodynamic cars.
And lets get real, why the hell are they racing 4 door sedans when they should be calling the cars Mustangs, Camaro's, and Challengers. NASCAR is too concerned with making everyone even and equal, so all the cars end up looking identical rather than actually having styling that represents street cars.
I am happy to see that GM has gotten back into the aftermarket performance v8 market. It looked like Dodge and Ford had taken over for a while with all of the SVT and SRT stuff.
And lets get real, why the hell are they racing 4 door sedans when they should be calling the cars Mustangs, Camaro's, and Challengers. NASCAR is too concerned with making everyone even and equal, so all the cars end up looking identical rather than actually having styling that represents street cars.
I am happy to see that GM has gotten back into the aftermarket performance v8 market. It looked like Dodge and Ford had taken over for a while with all of the SVT and SRT stuff.
Andrew
Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
Wait till 2007 when the "Car of the Future" will be raced in NASCAR. Can you say spec racer with Ford, Chevrolet or Dodge decals in the front.
Andrew
Andrew
THEY ARE ALREADY THAT MAN..
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A bio on Robin L for those of you who have lived under a rock...
http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfpart.../robin_bio.jsp
When he talks, you might want to listen...
http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfpart.../robin_bio.jsp
When he talks, you might want to listen...
Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I wish NASCAR went back to the days of the 60s and 70s when the cars were nearly identical to the production car bodies. That would force the big three to actually build aerodynamic cars.
i dont want a aerodynamic jellybean that generates 400lbs of downforce on the nose.
i want a manly CAR shaped car. you know, flat grill, hood, a trunk. edges... something like the muscle car look of the late 60s.
when they stick to the shape of the production car, they mod the production car so that you get ugly monte carlos, jellybean ford Tauruses, ect.... just think back to what you saw in the mid to late 90s.
the worse thing they could do is make them keep the camaro or mustangs shape.. that would either force them to run a non-aero car (and noone will want to run it) or force us to have ugly jellybean cars... and if you're thinking of a sleek, euro styled GT car.. forget it.. or atleast put a different name then camaro on it.
if you really want to see trans am style racing (what you seem to be getting at) goto a trans am race... they could really use more fans anyway.
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Ok, if you want to talk about COT or NASCAR, go start another thread. Any more comments, and I will split this thread. Lets get back to the LSx block.
Robin,
I noticed discussions on Hardcorels1 about a class structure using the standard NMCA format. I'm familiar with this one from the Cheap Street/Mean Street/Street Race classes.
I made a few suggestions about some changes I thought might be appropriate.
Here is a rather broad question.
What does GMPP need/want from us, the end user?
What is NMCA looking for from the LSx racing community?
Robin,
I noticed discussions on Hardcorels1 about a class structure using the standard NMCA format. I'm familiar with this one from the Cheap Street/Mean Street/Street Race classes.
I made a few suggestions about some changes I thought might be appropriate.
Here is a rather broad question.
What does GMPP need/want from us, the end user?
What is NMCA looking for from the LSx racing community?
Originally Posted by J-Rod
Ok, if you want to talk about COT or NASCAR, go start another thread. Any more comments, and I will split this thread. Lets get back to the LSx block.
Robin,
I noticed discussions on Hardcorels1 about a class structure using the standard NMCA format. I'm familiar with this one from the Cheap Street/Mean Street/Street Race classes.
I made a few suggestions about some changes I thought might be appropriate.
Here is a rather broad question.
What does GMPP need/want from us, the end user?
What is NMCA looking for from the LSx racing community?
Robin,
I noticed discussions on Hardcorels1 about a class structure using the standard NMCA format. I'm familiar with this one from the Cheap Street/Mean Street/Street Race classes.
I made a few suggestions about some changes I thought might be appropriate.
Here is a rather broad question.
What does GMPP need/want from us, the end user?
What is NMCA looking for from the LSx racing community?
..but you can put the NMCA in there too..back to the block discussion .. ..screw all these other topics that have wandered into this thread.. 6600 rpm clutch dump of death Administrator
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Originally Posted by slt200mph
Good point sir.. ..but you can put the NMCA in there too..back to the block discussion .. ..screw all these other topics that have wandered into this thread..
..but you can put the NMCA in there too..back to the block discussion .. ..screw all these other topics that have wandered into this thread..