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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by J-Rod
Ok, if you want to talk about COT or NASCAR, go start another thread. Any more comments, and I will split this thread. Lets get back to the LSx block.

Robin,

I noticed discussions on Hardcorels1 about a class structure using the standard NMCA format. I'm familiar with this one from the Cheap Street/Mean Street/Street Race classes.

I made a few suggestions about some changes I thought might be appropriate.

Here is a rather broad question.

What does GMPP need/want from us, the end user?
What is NMCA looking for from the LSx racing community?

Well I think that GMPP has a decent handle on what the end users are looking for. I guess a little understanding that the process moves a little slow sometimes.
It's very frustrating when you have the parts in your sights, but the procedures in place need to be followed. blocks, intakes, heads are all coming for the LS series engines. It's amazing what some guys go through to get the latest new parts. (can't say that I blame them Hehe).

I am also frustrated that because of completive reasons that I can't share everything here. Believe me I am pushing my contacts very hard to get as much info out as possible.

As far as the NMCA and a proposed LSX type class I can't answer any of those questions. I have not been part of those discussions. What I do know, is that GMPP wants a series that lets LS racers show off their stuff.

I don't know what policy violated but in a previous post discussing a series my posts were deleted.

So I will probably post that information elsewhere out of courtesy to this site.

Sorry about the delay, I've been on the dyno all day an am behind at work



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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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A wealth of knowlegde and someone is deleteing your posts Thats sad
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Robin, I can see one post of yours was deleted by Nine Ball, not sure why but perhaps it was advertising related.

I'd like to see an LSx class happen in the NMCA, LS1TECH would gladly throw a lot of support behind it. I'd do an NA class and a power adder class. Most of our guys are not going to do 25.5 or 25.2 so keeping stuff above 8.50 is the way to go. Very few of our guys could be competitive in Xtreme Street. PM me if you would like to chat at some point.

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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Perhaps I missed it, or it is just mot mentioned in here, but is this block going to come with provision for conventional sbc motor mounts as well as the LS style mounts? Just wondered because that would more easily open up more avenues for it. I believe the Warhawk block mentioned it was going to come with provisions for both. Also, what about the one missing bell husing bolt hole (for the old school tranny)? If I remember correctly it was left out because there was not room for it before penetrating the water jacket or something like that. Would this block offer a pad there or something there to possibly use a shorter bolt or better yet maybe a stud? I was thinking this would make a nice refresh option for a marine product as well. Now if we could just get someone to make a decent iron head as well (or find a way to anodize the inside of the water jackets in the aluminum ones).
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin L
It's very frustrating when you have the parts in your sights, but the procedures in place need to be followed. blocks, intakes, heads are all coming for the LS series engines. It's amazing what some guys go through to get the latest new parts. (can't say that I blame them Hehe).
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We race, so we try to find any advantage we can.....simple as that. Just a fact of racing these days.

There are options coming yet this fall.

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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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New NEWs?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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From the discussion before.... Spring time for the blocks.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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Heres The Scoop That I got at the RPM Show

100% CNC Block Cast iron (280 kpa tensile)
True proirity oiling
Siamese cylinder bores
6 head bolts per cylinder
Standard 4.400 bore spacing Standerd deck height (9.700 tall deck to Follow)
Increase deck thickness
LS7 6 bolt Doweled in place Billet Main caps
Max 4.500" Stroke (tall deck only) Capable of a 364 to 500+ cid Tall deck for large displacement
Wet and dry sump capabitly
Deep Skirted Head bolt Holes
Orange power coat
Maintains all OEM LS family exterior mounting features
Accepts all Gen III & LS Heads ,cranks Cams ,ect.
Includes Unique new cam retainer,rear cover and lifter retainers and OEM cam bearings
Front Motor Plate mounting holes added
Added material above cam bearings for added strength
Approximate Finish weight 225 lbs
9.26 semi finished deck height (Standard deck height)
3.990 bore ready for honing,maximun 4.250bore @ .200 Minimum wall thickness.

6 bolt LSX bolt pattern
11mm standerd bolts 8mm exterior /interior bolts
Can be machined for 1/2 in bolts or studs

All 5 cam bores for standard small OD bearings P/N 12453169
can also be machined to 60mm roller bearings

Added material around standerd .842 lifter bore also can be machined for large lifters and/ or 1.050 bronze bushings

O-ringed screw in soft plugs

Accommodates any LS small block oil pan and oil pump, standard LS wet sump systems and LS7 dry sump systems fit.
Extermal oil pump feed @ rear of block
Front oil line can be plugged and external oil pump /aftermarket dry sump system can be used.

Belt cam drive can be accommodated.

7th tranmission bolt hole added per early sbc

Main web bay to bay breathing holes for increased HP

Access windows for cylinder head stud access (intake side)

Extra Breathing pockets added near starter for better windage

Thats it real nice sweet Coming March 2007

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 05:22 AM
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4.259" bore with .200 min. wall on 4.400 bore centers ??? That would only leave .141" between the cylinders. Offset 4.459" bore centers or non 90 degree bore locations ??
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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The flyer I got says 4.250 max bore, which would only work N/A.

I saw the plastic model, and all I can say is WOW, very cool. Cant' wait to see a real one.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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4.25 LSX block +4 in. stroke+ LS7 heads ported+260@.050 cam=
a big dose of
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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sounds nice but torque is where its at!
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandit28
sounds nice but torque is where its at!
uhh... if you're not making torque with a motor this size, you dont deserve a motor this size.

no. i'll rephrase.
i think you'll have to try REALLY REALLY hard, for the motor to NOT make torque.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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Does Anyone Know The Part Number To The New Lsx Block?
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Your part # for the GM Performance Parts LSX block is 19166454. This LSX block includes the following: Cam thrust plate, Rear Cover &Tappet guide.

Hope this helps

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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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any word yet? have they shipped?
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Any dates been discussed for the release of the Tall Deck?
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Any dates been discussed for the release of the Tall Deck?
Any dates are just speculation and rumors at this point.
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