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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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is anyone running L92 heads on an lq4 shortblock? i just sold my ls1 camaro with intentions of building an lq4 i have, and using L92 heads in the process. i have been reading up on this, but haven't found any concrete info on this combo. it appears i might have a problem with valve to cylinder wall clearance when using the L92 heads on a 4" bore. i will be running a big duration cam with the goal of 11:1 compression. what's the most i can mill an L92 head? i would like to use the stock lq4 pistons and simply flycut to accomdate the 250ish duration cam.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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nope youll be fine.. the L92's work perfect.. its the LS7 heads that wont work, the valves are too big and will clip the cylinder wall unless your bigger than 4.090 or something around there.


L92 = heads of choice for us big bore crowd.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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GM uses L92 heads on the L76 engines, which have a 4" bore and are 6.0L.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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ok...thanks for the responses. i recall reading something about valve/cylinder wall contact, but it's with the larger valves of the ls7 head. thanks again.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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might as well take ur block another .030 while ur at it for another 5ci
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NemeSS
might as well take ur block another .030 while ur at it for another 5ci
.030" over is 6ci...not trying to nitpick just pointing out some bad info. And for the poster I believe WMCKD (i think thats his name) was saying that there was huge problems with PTV clearance with even small cams. Might just have to figure that out for yourself though when you mock it up.

The LQ4 has 9.5:1 compression with a 72 cc head so it will be pretty tough to get 11:1 without some serious milling and a small gasket. May have to run a pretty small duration cam to get the DCR up there which wouldn't really hurt you with as good as the L92 port is.

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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
.030" over is 6ci...not trying to nitpick just pointing out some bad info. And for the poster I believe WMCKD (i think thats his name) was saying that there was huge problems with PTV clearance with even small cams. Might just have to figure that out for yourself though when you mock it up.

The LQ4 has 9.5:1 compression with a 72 cc head so it will be pretty tough to get 11:1 without some serious milling and a small gasket. May have to run a pretty small duration cam to get the DCR up there which wouldn't really hurt you with as good as the L92 port is.

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what cam?? for a 370 out of a 6.0 block? what LSA for nitrous... 200 shot.... ??
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Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
.030" over is 6ci...And for the poster I believe WMCKD (i think thats his name) was saying that there was huge problems with PTV clearance with even small cams. Might just have to figure that out for yourself though when you mock it up.

. May have to run a pretty small duration cam to get the DCR up there which wouldn't really hurt you with as good as the L92 port is.

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These heads don't have a lot of free drop to begin with and a huge intake valve.. I think almost any cam much larger than stock is probably going to require some additional thought and consideration.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
These heads don't have a lot of free drop to begin with and a huge intake valve.. I think almost any cam much larger than stock is probably going to require some additional thought and consideration.
so a good cam..... 236/248 .592/.612 on a 113??

shouldnt that clear??


anyway.... who has tested PTV with these heads?? I assume with the right piston they will clear..... so basically these heads are gonna be made for boost/low compression setups.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Forteen3GT
so a good cam..... 236/248 .592/.612 on a 113??

shouldnt that clear??
Bret Bauer designed my cam. You might want to check with him.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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i will flycut as needed, but if possible i'd like to run something like a 248/256 on a 106-108 with ~.610 lift. if getting compression is going to be that hard, i will slightly reduce the size of the cam. i am anticipating a sheetmetal intake setup, possibly carb...i am still exploring options, as there are MANY. i'm trying to keep a $5k budget on the motor itself, with the complete lq4 engine costing me ~$1,200 (yes, i have connections). i figure that selling the stock heads/intake setup would get me ~$500 total.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Bret Bauer designed my cam. You might want to check with him.
Bret.... PM me specs on a cam for a 370 w/ car or carbed L92 intake options. Bigger cam the better. needs to be streetable. Going with 200 shot of nitrous for now. thru the setup below in sig..
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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It's not likely the stock LQ4 pistons will survive long in this application. The valve notches will have to be pretty deep to fit a 250ish degree cam and the stock piston crown is going to end up pretty thin. Add to that the fragile nature of the stock pistons and I think your going to end up with an engine that won't last very long. Put in some forged pistons with a small dome and proper valve notches and you've solved all your problems.

Good luck,

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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Forteen3GT
Bret.... PM me specs on a cam for a 370 w/ car or carbed L92 intake options. Bigger cam the better. needs to be streetable. Going with 200 shot of nitrous for now. thru the setup below in sig..
Are you serious? And bret while you're at it give me 20 bucks.

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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard@WCCH
Put in some forged pistons with a small dome and proper valve notches and you've solved all your problems.
i am considering this option, and it seems to be the best answer the more i read and ask questions. it's only money, right? i'll make more next week..
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
Are you serious? And bret while you're at it give me 20 bucks.

Nate

dont LG me.... I am asking for an idea only.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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yeah, maybe you should do some research. Questions like you asked aren't the ones Bret typically wastes time answering.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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LG you???? You mean I should give out cam info for free??? Sorry, I get paid to do it normally.

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money shot...i was counting down to this post...haha

Bret, i'll be calling you this week for some cam help, will be ordering it from you however.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
LG you???? You mean I should give out cam info for free??? Sorry, I get paid to do it normally.

Bret

Yea but you owe me beer! Everyone knows you design your best cams drunk right?
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