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SideStep, put a Magnacharger on your Vette. It'll give you everything you are looking for: power and streetability.
I had a ported Eaton 2003 Cobra. It was very nice to drive around with 500rwhp.
I had a ported Eaton 2003 Cobra. It was very nice to drive around with 500rwhp.
Hmmm interesting thread... I was all about my stock-cammed, nice driving, 384 rwhp, bolt-ons Z06... then I made the mistake of driving to Florida in my buddies '04 h/c Z w/ AFRs at 59cc and the G5-X1E cam... thus I have a G5-X2 on the way 
I'm going the other way... I want some cam lope now.
Drivability is all in the tune apparently... If It sucks... well then I'll put up w/ it until I can build my 416 L92 based motor one day.
I'm going the other way... I want some cam lope now.Drivability is all in the tune apparently... If It sucks... well then I'll put up w/ it until I can build my 416 L92 based motor one day.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Hmmm interesting thread... I was all about my stock-cammed, nice driving, 384 rwhp, bolt-ons Z06... then I made the mistake of driving to Florida in my buddies '04 h/c Z w/ AFRs at 59cc and the G5-X1E cam... thus I have a G5-X2 on the way I'm going the other way... I want some cam lope now.
Drivability is all in the tune apparently... If It sucks... well then I'll put up w/ it until I can build my 416 L92 based motor one day.
I'm going the other way... I want some cam lope now.Drivability is all in the tune apparently... If It sucks... well then I'll put up w/ it until I can build my 416 L92 based motor one day.
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Originally Posted by Quickin
Speaking of a 416 L92 engine, the shop thats building my new engine just built exactly that, with an L76 intake and a small 230 cam. Put down 526 RWHP this week. He ported the heads to 350 cfm. Idles exactly like stock.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Hmmm interesting thread... I was all about my stock-cammed, nice driving, 384 rwhp, bolt-ons Z06... then I made the mistake of driving to Florida in my buddies '04 h/c Z w/ AFRs at 59cc and the G5-X1E cam... thus I have a G5-X2 on the way I'm going the other way... I want some cam lope now.
Drivability is all in the tune apparently... If It sucks... well then I'll put up w/ it until I can build my 416 L92 based motor one day.
I'm going the other way... I want some cam lope now.Drivability is all in the tune apparently... If It sucks... well then I'll put up w/ it until I can build my 416 L92 based motor one day.
Well that is partially true... BUT, there is only so much that "tuning" can do for you when cam overlap exceeds 58 degrees (@ .006), for example... As overlap increases higher and higher idle quality and low-rpm driving suffers. Sure there are tricks to work around it, keep raising the RPM level until you can get idle under control, and/or go to SD... and if the cam is really wild you can ditch it all and run in open-loop... many here do...
I am on my sixth cam (mild to wild, back to mild) and have done the supercharger. There are compromises to each.
Driving a car once or twice is not living with and this thread is about daily driving your ride... in traffic, in the parking lot, five to seven days a week...
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Originally Posted by SideStep
Well that is partially true... BUT, there is only so much that "tuning" can do for you when cam overlap exceeds 58 degrees (@ .006), for example... As overlap increases higher and higher idle quality and low-rpm driving suffers. Sure there are tricks to work around it, keep raising the RPM level until you can get idle under control, and/or go to SD... and if the cam is really wild you can ditch it all and run in open-loop... many here do...
I am on my sixth cam (mild to wild, back to mild) and have done the supercharger. There are compromises to each.
Driving a car once or twice is not living with and this thread is about daily driving your ride... in traffic, in the parking lot, five to seven days a week...
I am on my sixth cam (mild to wild, back to mild) and have done the supercharger. There are compromises to each.
Driving a car once or twice is not living with and this thread is about daily driving your ride... in traffic, in the parking lot, five to seven days a week...
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
Don't blame the cam, blame the intake
What has the intake got to do with high overlap cams (58* or so and higher) affecting idle and low-rpm driving???
I am using a FAST 90/90 setup now but with a ZO6(2002) cam and idle/low-rpm driving is as good as stock... a huge differnce compared to the 232/236 XE-R cam I had...
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Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
Lol, I can assure you plenty of 4.00 strokes burn oil.
If you hit the searches hard enough (not just here) there are several 4" strokes burning/using oil... Some do, some do not... I have to assume that depending on how well everything seats some oil use is not the end of the world. I would like to know if a stroker does use oil how much is too much, 1qt every 3000 miles, 2qt every 3000 miles, ...etc...???
Unfortunately people guard this information, like it is a dirty little secret they do not want to admit to or let out... when many of us could greatly benefit from their experiences...
Originally Posted by SideStep
You are joking right???
What has the intake got to do with high overlap cams (58* or so and higher) affecting idle and low-rpm driving???
I am using a FAST 90/90 setup now but with a ZO6(2002) cam and idle/low-rpm driving is as good as stock... a huge differnce compared to the 232/236 XE-R cam I had...
What has the intake got to do with high overlap cams (58* or so and higher) affecting idle and low-rpm driving???
I am using a FAST 90/90 setup now but with a ZO6(2002) cam and idle/low-rpm driving is as good as stock... a huge differnce compared to the 232/236 XE-R cam I had...
Just took delivery of a 402 LS2. I put a bottle of GM EOS (Engine Oil Supplement) and will be changing the oil to Valvoline Racing Oil that has a high content of zinc and phosphorus tomorrow and will add the EOS again. I want driveability and reliability, not pre-occupying myself with a dyno expectation or a trap speed. Shut the hood and move on to something else. Life is too short.
Originally Posted by firefighter
Some of these motors might be burning oil because they were not broken in right.
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
I'm assuming he's referring to independent throttle body intakes like the Harrop. Reversion doesn't have near the impact on those, thus allowing the use of a much tighter LSA without the impact to the idle quality. But considering a $3000-$4000 intake for a daily driver might be a bit much, and thus not feasible to the normal end user.
$3000-4000!!!!
That is almost the price of a SDPC 402...
Originally Posted by Quickin
Wow, I'm surprised you have any oil burning at all.
Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Stroke has nothing to do with oil consumption. If it does, I'd like to hear about it. Anyways, my oil burning issue was caused by a reluctor wheel that was installed backwards. This caused the timing to be off... a lot. Suprisingly, the car actually ran like this, but was only running on cylinders 4,5,7,8. Because the timing was so off, all of the cylinders were washed down in gasoline, 1,2,3, and 6 more so, removing the oil from the cylinder walls from assembly. This resulted in the rings not being able to seat properly upon break-in. Removing the spark plugs acutally shows that cylinders 1,2,3, and 6 are burning more oil than the others, but they are all burning oil to some extent. After 1600 miles, the oil consumption has gone way down, but it is still unacceptable.
Originally Posted by Quickin
Speaking of a 416 L92 engine, the shop thats building my new engine just built exactly that, with an L76 intake and a small 230 cam. Put down 526 RWHP this week. He ported the heads to 350 cfm. Idles exactly like stock.
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