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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Hey guys. I think I decided on the MS4 cam. Would I need to fly cut my pistons? It's going into a LS2 with stock heads. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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no not at all
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Thanks for the help
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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no problem i might be selling my ms4 cam kit
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Isin't that the one TSP ripped off from EDC? Why don't you ask Ed?
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No there is no flycutting required with the MS4 and stock heads.

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Isin't that the one TSP ripped off from EDC? Why don't you ask Ed?
You think we took specs from EDC to make our MS4? What a joke! That is hands-down the dumbest thing on the internet any of us at the shop had read yet. We don't need to "rip off" any one else(especially Ed) to come up with cams that make power. We put a lot of time and R&D into our cams. Next time you decide to post in one of our threads...just keep your mouth shut. It's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. We have DYNO-PROVEN results from the engine dyno that show our MS4 works. This is how we test cams. Cam theory only gets you so far. Things are very different when you actually dyno what you push. We don't just pick some random specs and hope for the best. We try different setups to see what works best before we release a new camshaft. Can you show me any engine dyno results from EDC showing the power differences? We'll be back on the engine dyno next week testing one of our stroker packages with many different camshafts again. We actually KNOW what our cams are doing when we recommend them. With all of the cam theory going on these days, everyone is an expert. We back up what we sell and recommend to our customers. Anyone can sit on their computer at their house in their bunny slippers recommending cams based on what they THINK will work. We'll recommend what we KNOW works because it's already been proven.

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Originally Posted by Brian @ Texas Speed & Performance
No there is no flycutting required with the MS4 and stock heads.
even on an ls2 with it's higher stock compression?
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i have a ms4 in my 05 gto i love it.
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Originally Posted by imslow
even on an ls2 with it's higher stock compression?
As long as you still have the stock valve size and the heads aren't milled any you will not have to flycut.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by imslow
even on an ls2 with it's higher stock compression?
The compression couldn't be higher because of the bigger bore/more displacement, could it?
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Yep, it actually does have a higher compression. LS2 motors are 10.9:1, LS1 motors are 10.1:1, and LS6 motors are 10.5:1 from the factory.
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