1300rwhp
1300rwhp I want to do a large single turbo on a Warhawk block. Should I wait for the tall deck? What C.I./turbo size/heads would you recommend for this thing to make 1300rwhp and do you think it can be done on pump gas? 
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Pump gas with Methanol Injection might get close, but dicey.
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Pump gas with Methanol Injection might get close, but dicey.
1300 rwhp on pump gas... damn that's a lot... That's a serious car you're building there !
You planning on bring it down to the I-95 south Florida roll race nationals?
You planning on bring it down to the I-95 south Florida roll race nationals?
I'd like to get as close as possible with pump gas. If she needs a little 101, so be it. I like the number 13. Especially with double nuts after it. Ya think a 101mm turbo feeding 454c.i. would do it? I want it to attain that number within reason. High boost, well that would just get silly.
Roll race nationals..
It would be fun to take to the salt flats though...
Roll race nationals..
It would be fun to take to the salt flats though... Whats the Budget???
Id say around $35-45,000....
Id say shoot for between 8:1-9:1 Comp... closer to 8:1 if your serious about the Pump gas staement....
A 91-94mm Turbo should do the trick.....
Now the tranny to take it...... Ya better not be still wantng a 6 speed....
Kyle
Id say around $35-45,000....
Id say shoot for between 8:1-9:1 Comp... closer to 8:1 if your serious about the Pump gas staement....
A 91-94mm Turbo should do the trick.....
Now the tranny to take it...... Ya better not be still wantng a 6 speed....
Kyle
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If the pumps around you have E85 you could probably break 1300whp, I've seen dyno sheets where the car was boosted to 24psi on the stuff and with methanol and E85 (yea i know its sort of an alcohol car at that point) they hit 28.
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[QUOTE=NA$TY-TA]Whats the Budget???
Id say around $35-45,000....
Id say shoot for between 8:1-9:1 Comp... closer to 8:1 if your serious about the Pump gas staement....
A 91-94mm Turbo should do the trick.....
Now the tranny to take it...... Ya better not be still wantng a 6 speed....
Kyle[/QUOTE/]
Yeah...That's the budget I'm shooting for and I'm looking to have it done sometime in '09, no hurry...I think I can do it that way without my wife murdering me. About the 6speed, that's the one thing I'm hung up on. I REALLY don't want an auto. I planned to call Joe at T56rebuilds and see if there's ANYTHING that will hold it. If it has to go, I suppose it'll have to go though.
Id say around $35-45,000....
Id say shoot for between 8:1-9:1 Comp... closer to 8:1 if your serious about the Pump gas staement....
A 91-94mm Turbo should do the trick.....
Now the tranny to take it...... Ya better not be still wantng a 6 speed....
Kyle[/QUOTE/]
Yeah...That's the budget I'm shooting for and I'm looking to have it done sometime in '09, no hurry...I think I can do it that way without my wife murdering me. About the 6speed, that's the one thing I'm hung up on. I REALLY don't want an auto. I planned to call Joe at T56rebuilds and see if there's ANYTHING that will hold it. If it has to go, I suppose it'll have to go though.
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[QUOTE=edwardswb] th400 with a gear vendors od and a paddle shifter setup
Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Whats the Budget???
Id say around $35-45,000....
Id say shoot for between 8:1-9:1 Comp... closer to 8:1 if your serious about the Pump gas staement....
A 91-94mm Turbo should do the trick.....
Now the tranny to take it...... Ya better not be still wantng a 6 speed....
Kyle[/QUOTE/]
Yeah...That's the budget I'm shooting for and I'm looking to have it done sometime in '09, no hurry...I think I can do it that way without my wife murdering me. About the 6speed, that's the one thing I'm hung up on. I REALLY don't want an auto. I planned to call Joe at T56rebuilds and see if there's ANYTHING that will hold it. If it has to go, I suppose it'll have to go though.
Id say around $35-45,000....
Id say shoot for between 8:1-9:1 Comp... closer to 8:1 if your serious about the Pump gas staement....
A 91-94mm Turbo should do the trick.....
Now the tranny to take it...... Ya better not be still wantng a 6 speed....
Kyle[/QUOTE/]
Yeah...That's the budget I'm shooting for and I'm looking to have it done sometime in '09, no hurry...I think I can do it that way without my wife murdering me. About the 6speed, that's the one thing I'm hung up on. I REALLY don't want an auto. I planned to call Joe at T56rebuilds and see if there's ANYTHING that will hold it. If it has to go, I suppose it'll have to go though.
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If you have the budget to build a 1300rwhp setup I would run a staged injection BS3 or just race fuel at higher boost to protect your investment. Not really sure why you would take a chance with that kind of engine when you really don't know what's going into your tank every time you fill up at the pump.
Also, a T56 with G-force internals would take that power, Vipers have pushed them much farther than that.
Also, a T56 with G-force internals would take that power, Vipers have pushed them much farther than that.
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[QUOTE=Wnts2Go10O]
Uh, I think that 1300RWHP, or about 1500 Flywheel HP, might be a little much for a TH400, but I don't really know.
How about a powerglide with a Gear Vendors OD to make it a 4 speed?
Just a thought...
Originally Posted by edwardswb
th400 with a gear vendors od and a paddle shifter setup
Uh, I think that 1300RWHP, or about 1500 Flywheel HP, might be a little much for a TH400, but I don't really know.
How about a powerglide with a Gear Vendors OD to make it a 4 speed?
Just a thought...
[QUOTE=gun5l1ng3r]
Uh, I think that 1300RWHP, or about 1500 Flywheel HP, might be a little much for a TH400, but I don't really know.
How about a powerglide with a Gear Vendors OD to make it a 4 speed?
Just a thought... could always just use a lenco or something..dunno
Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
Uh, I think that 1300RWHP, or about 1500 Flywheel HP, might be a little much for a TH400, but I don't really know.
How about a powerglide with a Gear Vendors OD to make it a 4 speed?
Just a thought...
Originally Posted by INTMD8
If you have the budget to build a 1300rwhp setup I would run a staged injection BS3 or just race fuel at higher boost to protect your investment. Not really sure why you would take a chance with that kind of engine when you really don't know what's going into your tank every time you fill up at the pump.
Also, a T56 with G-force internals would take that power, Vipers have pushed them much farther than that.
Also, a T56 with G-force internals would take that power, Vipers have pushed them much farther than that.
Jim,
I know the G-Force Trans can take the power..... i looked into it in my build.....
Its the damn clutch going that bothered me..... It will last a while but going thru 2 $1K Clutches a YR bothered me.....
FormerVendor
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Jim,
I know the G-Force Trans can take the power..... i looked into it in my build.....
Its the damn clutch going that bothered me..... It will last a while but going thru 2 $1K Clutches a YR bothered me.....
I know the G-Force Trans can take the power..... i looked into it in my build.....
Its the damn clutch going that bothered me..... It will last a while but going thru 2 $1K Clutches a YR bothered me.....
Originally Posted by INTMD8
If you have the budget to build a 1300rwhp setup I would run a staged injection BS3 or just race fuel at higher boost to protect your investment. Not really sure why you would take a chance with that kind of engine when you really don't know what's going into your tank every time you fill up at the pump.
Also, a T56 with G-force internals would take that power, Vipers have pushed them much farther than that.
Also, a T56 with G-force internals would take that power, Vipers have pushed them much farther than that.
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Originally Posted by edwardswb
I want to do a large single turbo on a Warhawk block. Should I wait for the tall deck? What C.I./turbo size/heads would you recommend for this thing to make 1300rwhp and do you think it can be done on pump gas?
But why not just use a 16 injector intake. Run on pump gas full time and than when you hit the throttle the other 8 injectors automatically start spraying race gas from a stand alone tank to a 75/25 mix of race/pump gas at a preselected boost/power level. All on the fly.
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Originally Posted by Quickin
If its built right, it CAN be done on pump gas. There are already turbo engines out there that make power like that on 91 octane. Gotta be built by the right person though and big cubes like 454ci, which the Warhawk can do.
But why not just use a 16 injector intake. Run on pump gas full time and than when you hit the throttle the other 8 injectors automatically start spraying race gas from a stand alone tank to a 75/25 mix of race/pump gas at a preselected boost/power level. All on the fly.
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But why not just use a 16 injector intake. Run on pump gas full time and than when you hit the throttle the other 8 injectors automatically start spraying race gas from a stand alone tank to a 75/25 mix of race/pump gas at a preselected boost/power level. All on the fly.
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