Generation IV Internal Engine 2005-2014 LS2 | LS3 | LS7 | L92 | LS9

Cloyes IRL Timing Chain

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:49 PM
  #1  
vettenuts's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default Cloyes IRL Timing Chain

Looking for photo's or information on this timing chain.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 09:17 PM
  #2  
Bink's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,261
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts
Looking for photo's or information on this timing chain.
Google is your friend -> http://www.lingenfelter.com/store/9-3153al.html
Looks like this is the Cloyes with "Rain" chain. Basically a Premium Renold roller chain.

Look at page 3 of the Cloyes catalog ->

http://www.cloyes.com/pdf/Cloyes_2007_HP_Catalog.pdf


http://www.sdparts.com/product/CLO9-...RainChain.aspx

Last edited by Bink; Aug 26, 2008 at 09:30 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:12 PM
  #3  
Haans249's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,045
Likes: 4
From: Fort Worth, TX
Default

Bink,

















GO BLUE

The end.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:38 PM
  #4  
Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
From: "Sin City" Las Vegas
Default

Hey, if you need one, I just pulled it off my motor and went back to the double roller. I need the double roller cause were shooting for around 1100-1200rwtq.

Mine probably has 40 miles on it.

Its the LS2 style for 24T though. If that matters at all..
Originally Posted by vettenuts
Looking for photo's or information on this timing chain.

Last edited by Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng; Aug 27, 2008 at 06:32 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:40 PM
  #5  
Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
From: "Sin City" Las Vegas
Default

BTW, Check out Comps...Its the EXACT same one. Even the part numbers are the same. Comp is ALOT cheaper.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:55 PM
  #6  
Tom@SpeedInc's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,890
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default

last I saw comp's LS2 double row set used a rolon chain
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:38 AM
  #7  
vettenuts's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default

Don't believe they ever made it for LS2 as Cloyes stopped making it a few years ago.

Bink,

Thanks for the links, saw those but was looking for a close-up to compare to the JWIS that Katech sells. The IRL chain is a shortened Oldsmobile Aurora chain that is hand assembled and blue printed.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 06:31 PM
  #8  
Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
From: "Sin City" Las Vegas
Default

The cloyes chain is a single roller just like the Comp. Cloyes part # is 9-3153KT..The Comp version is 3153KT

This part number is for the single roller, hexadjust, 24T or 58T, timing set from either cloyes or comp.. Being that their the same part number tells me, its the same, but I guess it could be a freak similarity.

If your looking for the LS2 version, the part number is different its 9-3158KT or 3158KT (from comp)
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:31 PM
  #9  
Bink's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,261
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts
Don't believe they ever made it for LS2 as Cloyes stopped making it a few years ago.

Bink,

Thanks for the links, saw those but was looking for a close-up to compare to the JWIS that Katech sells. The IRL chain is a shortened Oldsmobile Aurora chain that is hand assembled and blue printed.
You're Welcome.
I have the cloyes/rain chain on my LS6. My new Katech engine has their C5R chain...is that the JWIS??
joel
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:33 PM
  #10  
Bink's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,261
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Haans249
Bink,

GO BLUE

The end.
Hehhehe.
I root for BLUE unless it's against OSU. Go Big Ten!
Go BUCKS!!

joel
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 07:54 PM
  #11  
vettenuts's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default

Originally Posted by Bink
You're Welcome.
I have the cloyes/rain chain on my LS6. My new Katech engine has their C5R chain...is that the JWIS??
joel
The Katech C5R chain is the JWIS G68V-2. A lot of people don't realize that IWIS Ketten (JWIS) make several chains of the correct pitch but of varying quality. The G68V-2 chain is one of their top chains and is used in the M5 10 cylinder that turns a lot of RPM's. If you search you will find a few cases of broken double JWIS chains on Rollmaster, not all JWIS are created equal. Katech has yet to fail the chain they sell in their test cell or on the track.

I happened across a new IRL setup and was thinking about picking it up but wanted to get some more information. The only photo's I could find were from someone in Austria with a Vette but they were kind of blurry. His plate measurements are within a couple of 1,000ths of the Katech chain so I may pass since I have a Katech chain in hand already.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 08:01 PM
  #12  
vettenuts's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default

Originally Posted by Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng
The cloyes chain is a single roller just like the Comp. Cloyes part # is 9-3153KT..The Comp version is 3153KT

This part number is for the single roller, hexadjust, 24T or 58T, timing set from either cloyes or comp.. Being that their the same part number tells me, its the same, but I guess it could be a freak similarity.

If your looking for the LS2 version, the part number is different its 9-3158KT or 3158KT (from comp)
Cloyes makes those timing sets for Comp, who re-labels them just like the Crane timing set that is actually a re-labeled Rollmaster vernier set. Rollmaster was just bought by JP Performance so they may eventually merge products, time will tell. The IRL chain is Cloyes part number 9-3153AL and it isn't made any more. The chain was hand assembled, blueprinted and hand inspected. They are however preparing to introduce a new JWIS chain that I was told is as strong as the IRL chain, which is supposed to be out in 30 days. They are also introducing the 3153AT, which has a Torrington bearing. Even though the Comp 3153KT advertised it has a Torrington bearing, it actually does not. The 3153AT is manufactured, but the cam sprockets that have been machined to accept the bearing are hung up at their other plant.

Needless to say I have been doing some digging
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:52 PM
  #13  
Bink's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,261
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts

Needless to say I have been doing some digging
Is the Cloyes Hexajust "Rain" chain a Renold or a JWIS chain??
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 02:09 PM
  #14  
vettenuts's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default

Originally Posted by Bink
Is the Cloyes Hexajust "Rain" chain a Renold or a JWIS chain??
It is a Renold chain. Link plates are fine blanked and not stamped. Parts are shot peened, blue printed and hand assembled. I just ordered one, should have it next week.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:55 AM
  #15  
Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
From: "Sin City" Las Vegas
Default

Just an FYI, based off of the insignificance of the part you are inspecting in relation to the power you are making, I think it is safe to say, you have a SEVERE OCD..

If I send you an air sample of my tires, do you think you might be able to tell me the exact origin??I'm thinking the nitrogen content is slightly low..



Originally Posted by vettenuts
It is a Renold chain. Link plates are fine blanked and not stamped. Parts are shot peened, blue printed and hand assembled. I just ordered one, should have it next week.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:44 AM
  #16  
Bink's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,261
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng
Just an FYI, based off of the insignificance of the part you are inspecting in relation to the power you are making, I think it is safe to say, you have a SEVERE OCD..

If I send you an air sample of my tires, do you think you might be able to tell me the exact origin??I'm thinking the nitrogen content is slightly low..

...hehehe.

BUT, if you plan on doing track/road-course/HPDEs AND you run a manual transmission then the timing chain/set takes a major beating and durability is paramount.
Broken chain on downshift- KaBOOM......KaChing, KaChing.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2008 | 04:25 PM
  #17  
See5's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (53)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 874
Likes: 1
From: Hobart, WI
Default

Since this has evolved into timing chain Mecca, is there a premium quality LS2 stock replacement chain?

Chainks,
Bruce
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2008 | 05:30 PM
  #18  
vettenuts's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default

Straight replacement, Katech if you don't want an LS2 chain from GM.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 04:59 PM
  #19  
vettenuts's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 13
From: Little Rhody
Default

Originally Posted by Jeff@TotalPerformanceEng
...you have a SEVERE OCD..
Phew, and I thought I was just ****
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2008 | 05:00 PM
  #20  
hymey's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
From: Gladstone, Queensland, Australia
Default

there are medications available vette! lol what chain d JP use on there double roller
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:07 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE