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Old 01-07-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chazman
I guess my question would be:Is Harlan Charles in a position to know who BG is or isn't?
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Apparently

For those that don't know Mr. Harlan Charles is the Corvette Product & Marketing Manager.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/harlan-charles/11/711/214
I would think his position suffices.

Also, I sent the original message to him on 11/30/12. He only responded to me last Friday 1/4/13 which means they may have actually looked into it to some degree. His response says they did... "We looked into this and he is not a GM employee and does not represent GM". Why bother responding to me at all? He could have just ignored my message as I'm sure he gets many with the C7 release so close.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
I would think his position suffices.

Also, I sent the original message to him on 11/30/12. He only responded to me last Friday 1/4/13 which means they may have actually looked into it to some degree. His response says they did... "We looked into this and he is not a GM employee and does not represent GM". Why bother responding to me at all? He could have just ignored my message as I'm sure he gets many with the C7 release so close.
I understand that. But GM is a big place and not everyone knows what everyone else is doing. Trust me on that.

I do agree that BG obviously isn't representing GM in an "official" capacity. Otherwise he'd simply state - "Hello, I'm Joe Smith and work for GM and can't remark on future products".


Personally, I don't have a dog in this fight, one way or another. But just because a marketing manager has never heard of the screen name of someone working in a different department, doesn't really strike me as odd. Plus, what do you want him to say? "Yes I know him very well, but don't tell anyone?"

Now for all I know, BG could be a conman. But Harlan Charles's comment, in and of itself, is not enough to completely convince me of that.

I'll probably be more careful about opening suspicious emails, though.

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Originally Posted by chazman
I do agree that BG obviously isn't representing GM in an "official" capacity. Otherwise he'd simply state - "Hello, I'm Joe Smith and work for GM and can't remark on future products".
There have been posts in this thread where he says things like, "I can only tell you want I've been authorized to tell..." and "I'll have to get that cleared with management" etc. etc. He doesn't come out and say, "Hello I'm Bob Gunz, Powertrain Specialist, and I work at 123 GM Blvd in Dearborn", but he insinuates that he is here in an official capacity more than a few times.

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But just because a marketing manager has never heard of the screen name of someone working in a different department, doesn't really strike me as odd.
He didn't say "I've never heard of him." Or, "I'm not familiar with him or the department he works for."

He specifically said, "We looked into this and he is not a GM employee and does not represent GM". That tells me my message caused him to actually investigate or have someone under him investigate.

At the end of the day Mr. Gunz could indeed be a GM engineer put here to answer questions... I wouldn't put that past GM at all. However, I would never expect them to approve of someone representing the company, even in a "super secret I'm not supposed to be here" capacity, in the manner Mr. Gunz has carried himself. Both his attitude and poor writing/grammar skills are odd.
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Originally Posted by chazman
But Harlan Charles's comment, in and of itself, is not enough to completely convince me of that.
I also find Mr. Charles comment very generic. It is possible that BG is not who he says he is but also, Mr. Charles may simply not be aware of who he is within the ranks of GM.
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GM isn't a very big company. It would shock me if the left hand didn't know what the right hand is doing...

BTW - Thank god the marketing department doesn't do the engineering for cars.
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People posting on car forums is a form of marketing. Any approved-of posing would be known my Mr. Charles. Any non-approved of posting would be stopped.
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Charles is a leader on the Corvette project, me thinks he knows people he is in charge of...
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
Charles is a leader on the Corvette project, me thinks he knows people he is in charge of...

If we assume that BG works at Powertrain, he neither reports to Charles nor is Charles his superior.

BTW, lots of folks at the Warren Tech Center have been off for several weeks, so it's possible Mr. Charles hadn't checked his company email last month and just got to it a few days ago.
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
I find you grossly pathetic, reaching out to a marketing manager on facebook to try and discredit me. How childish like....All you're doing is polluting the thread with childish antics with a simple "NO" of a marketing manager of all people with ZERO insight or communications to engineers at all. Asking about the alias BIGG GUNZ...#FACT

Here is you're to do list.

1. Stop crying out about being a potential C7 buyer. Either you'll buy the car or not. You sound childish.... like there is a potential that GM will lose a sale because you're not happy only because you didn't obtain inside suspension information. Grow up.

2. Never go a marketing manager for verification of employee and employment. Try obtaining my ETAC CODE & one other code that all engineers have to verify employee through the director of HR and have a more than the ALIAS "BIGG GUNZ" when you do approach them.

3. It is out of your scope of understanding the information is too why your baffle and can't understand if it's bs or baffle. And you should purchase a helmet for your delicate feelings. It's hard to believe you're man with such thin skin.
Grow up and stop throwing a hissy fit over information I told you I am not allowed to reveal.

Now you can sincerely call me a jerk. As I've earned that title.


Sincerely "BIGG GUNZ" aka the Jerk!
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
Charles is a leader on the Corvette project, me thinks he knows people he is in charge of...
Charles is NOT a leader on the C7 development or team. Charles is a manager in marketing. Nothing more ....nothing less.

Some professional loser.... by alias CORBA asks a marketing manager if "BIGG GUNZ" works for GM.


And he says no...and it automatically discredits my insight and actual development on the engine. GET REAL....

I swear and talk about the reduction of intelligence in America.


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Tell us more about the 6th gen Camaro........
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Originally Posted by Bigg_Gunz
I find you grossly pathetic, reaching out to a marketing manager on facebook to try and discredit me. How childish like....All you're doing is polluting the thread with childish antics with a simple "NO" of a marketing manager of all people with ZERO insight or communications to engineers at all. Asking about the alias BIGG GUNZ...#FACT

Here is you're to do list.

1. Stop crying out about being a potential C7 buyer. Either you'll buy the car or not. You sound childish.... like there is a potential that GM will lose a sale because you're not happy only because you didn't obtain inside suspension information. Grow up.

2. Never go a marketing manager for verification of employee. Try obtaining myETAC CODE & one other code that all engineers have to verify employee through the director of HR and have a more than the ALIAS "BIGG GUNZ" when you do approach them.

3. It is about your scope of understanding the information is too why your baffle and can't understand if it's bs or baffle. And you should purchase a helmet for your delicate feelings. It's hard to believe you're man with such thin skin.
Grow up and stop throwing a hissy fit over information I told you I am not allowed to reveal.
Now you can sincerely call me a jerk. As I've earned that title.


Sincerely "BIGG GUNZ" aka the Jerk!
BG, we have had John Ligenfelter(well, its Ligenfelter..), Scott Settlemire(THE Fbody father), Robin Lawrence(GM backed racer) (i think thats his name), and others here. we have known EXACTLY who they were and they had been forthright in telling us who they were. all we know about you is that you are a 'combustion engineer.' no name or other information.

people have come and gone that say they are someone they arent and made waves because they were able to talk the talk until they were found out. so please excuse those of us who are and have been wary of such a wealth of information especially with some of the way things have gone down. this is the internet after all. not everyone is who they seem to be. it is up to you to prove who you are, not us because of your claims and information. the doubt about who you are is because you didnt clarify like john, scott, or robin.

until the point you really prove who you are.. its perfectly acceptable to question your identity. its a rather close knit communty
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I've violated a written terms on this direct feedback project. By insulting that TOOL OF A LOSER Cobra. So we're all pulled and my flare temper I am sorry guys.

As I've lost my composure and called rightfully the professional loser that he is...what waste of space and a pathetic excuse of a man. Mad because you didn't get the C7 suspension info what a puss you are maam.

You make think you have done this site a favor by polluting this thread with your bull shiit, spreading stupidity, giving these good on people anxiety making them question what is factual. But in visual reality & knowledge all you have done is taken away a valuable resource to help those that need it with a detail learning and understand of these systems an components.

I want to end this on a positive note.

And to the person that was in the process of decoding problems their possible issues with the LS7 heads and helping 1 other people get replacement engine at no cost that were clearly defective. Thank you for sending me those pictures I will sign the papers work tomorrow forward it to warranty claims and ensure your engine ships tomorrow.

My identify was always to remain anonymous, I've said it from day one in this thread. It was my choice to develop a random account to login and interact. And it was fine as long as I didn't insult anyone. Obviously that has happen... However I now know why directors say its best if you don't interact with base. Not everyone is capable of scope of things. And anyone that works on these developments know you cannot give your personal information until the project is complete and launched. Just like the people you mention...was able to confirm or deny their involvement with their real names until afterwards and even then proprietary information cannot be discussed. Which is fine 99% of you are fantastic..its always the 1% that is the problem. That's fine...I live and learn... I am sorry for my mistake no one should have anxiety.

We are in the business of making things right and taking care of the customer.

Everyone take care, I am wishing you all the best with your projects, goals and dreams.

And big brother will be smaller than 6.2 liters :: thats a #fact after that in the timeline in 2016-2017 the base C7 will have a TT V6 #FACT.

Thought I would throw you guys a bone. Take care guys

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I'm saddened to see such a good thread go down the drain.
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Originally Posted by Bigg_Gunz
Charles is NOT a leader on the C7 development or team. Charles is a manager in marketing. Nothing more ....nothing less.
He's the marketing manager for the Corvette brand... internet forum posting is marketing therefor the information you post and the manner in which you present it would fall under his "jurisdiction" (for lack of a better word).

Your English is poor and you carry yourself unlike any professional I've ever seen post in any of these forums. As such, I call your bullshit. In this era, where GM is fighting tooth and nail for every customer dollar possible, there's just no way they'd let this type of information be presented in this manner.

So how about you post up who you really are?

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Originally Posted by Bigg_Gunz
I've violated a written terms on this direct feedback project. By insulting that TOOL OF A LOSER Cobra. So we're all pulled and my flare temper I am sorry guys.

As I've lost my composure and called rightfully the professional loser that he is...what waste of space and a pathetic excuse of a man. Mad because you didn't get the C7 suspension info what a puss you are maam.

You make think you have done this site a favor by polluting this thread with your bull shiit, spreading stupidity, giving these good on people anxiety making them question what is factual. But in visual reality & knowledge all you have done is taken away a valuable resource to help those that need it with a detail learning and understand of these systems an components.

I want to end this on a positive note.

And to the person that was in the process of decoding problems their possible issues with the LS7 heads and helping 1 other people get replacement engine at no cost that were clearly defective. Thank you for sending me those pictures I will sign the papers work tomorrow forward it to warranty claims and ensure your engine ships tomorrow.

My identify was always to remain anonymous, I've said it from day one in this thread. It was my choice to develop a random account to login and interact. And it was fine as long as I didn't insult anyone. Obviously that has happen... However I now know why directors say its best if you don't interact with base. Not everyone is capable of scope of things. And anyone that works on these developments know you cannot give your personal information until the project is complete and launched. Just like the people you mention...was able to confirm or deny their involvement with their real names until afterwards and even then proprietary information cannot be discussed. Which is fine 99% of you are fantastic..its always the 1% that is the problem. That's fine...I live and learn... I am sorry for my mistake no one should have anxiety.

We are in the business of making things right and taking care of the customer.

Everyone take care, I am wishing you all the best with your projects, goals and dreams.

And big brother will be smaller than 6.2 liters :: thats a #fact after that in the timeline in 2016-2017 the base C7 will have a TT V6 #FACT.

Thought I would throw you guys a bone. Take care guys



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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
But hey... like that State Farm commercial... "I heard it on the internet so it has to be true... they don't put anything on the internet that isn't true."

Do you even realize how much this statement holds true to the information you are using to discredit his credibility? Also do you really think the head guy at marketing will know of every employee involved in every aspect of the car?
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Originally Posted by Bigg_Gunz
I've violated a written terms on this direct feedback project. By insulting that TOOL OF A LOSER Cobra. So we're all pulled and my flare temper I am sorry guys.

As I've lost my composure and called rightfully the professional loser that he is...what waste of space and a pathetic excuse of a man. Mad because you didn't get the C7 suspension info what a puss you are maam.

You make think you have done this site a favor by polluting this thread with your bull shiit, spreading stupidity, giving these good on people anxiety making them question what is factual. But in visual reality & knowledge all you have done is taken away a valuable resource to help those that need it with a detail learning and understand of these systems an components.

I want to end this on a positive note.

And to the person that was in the process of decoding problems their possible issues with the LS7 heads and helping 1 other people get replacement engine at no cost that were clearly defective. Thank you for sending me those pictures I will sign the papers work tomorrow forward it to warranty claims and ensure your engine ships tomorrow.

My identify was always to remain anonymous, I've said it from day one in this thread. It was my choice to develop a random account to login and interact. And it was fine as long as I didn't insult anyone. Obviously that has happen... However I now know why directors say its best if you don't interact with base. Not everyone is capable of scope of things. And anyone that works on these developments know you cannot give your personal information until the project is complete and launched. Just like the people you mention...was able to confirm or deny their involvement with their real names until afterwards and even then proprietary information cannot be discussed. Which is fine 99% of you are fantastic..its always the 1% that is the problem. That's fine...I live and learn... I am sorry for my mistake no one should have anxiety.

We are in the business of making things right and taking care of the customer.

Everyone take care, I am wishing you all the best with your projects, goals and dreams.

And big brother will be smaller than 6.2 liters :: thats a #fact after that in the timeline in 2016-2017 the base C7 will have a TT V6 #FACT.

Thought I would throw you guys a bone. Take care guys

Bigg Gunz
That confirms it... absolutely 100% no way in hell do you work for GM
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
Charles is a leader on the Corvette project, me thinks he knows people he is in charge of...

Tadge Juechter is actually the Chief Engineer for the Corvette brand and has been for many years...Harlan (his first name) is also a engineer but on the marketing side of the brand ( you will find the both of them at most big corvette events) most likely you will see interviews with both of these men next week for the launch of the car.
As for as the LT1 motor Jordan Lee is chief engineer and program manager for the Powertrain division...and during the development of this program over 100 Engineers have been involved in designing it.
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