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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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By the by, what motor does that falcon have. C.I.D. etc?
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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Not sure which particular Falcon you are referring to.

Ford (Aust) uses a 4 litre (244cuin) straight 6 and a 5.4 litre ( 329cuin) V8 in many different guises.

The 6 can be had as
a) 190kW (255hp), 383Nm (282ftlbs)
b) 245kw (328hp), 480Nm (354ftlbs) Turbo
c) 270kw (362hp), 550Nm (405ftlbs) F6 Typhoon (Turbo)

The V8 can be had as
d) 230kW (308hp), 500Nm (368ftlbs)
e) 260kW (348hp), Quadcam
f) 290kW (389hp), 520Nm (383ftlbs) Quadcam

http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Conte...agename=DFY/AU
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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I had a BA XR8 Falcon manual with Lts,cats removed,high flow exhausts,K&N,power pipe and piggy back and it was about 240kws at the wheels on the dyno tourqe was about 650nms though so it was real fun to drive and sounded great. I raced a lot of different cars in that thing and only really lost to a few.In some ways I really miss that car.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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I had a BA XR8 Falcon manual with Lts,cats removed,high flow exhausts,K&N,power pipe and piggy back and it was about 240kws at the wheels on the dyno tourqe was about 650nms though so it was real fun to drive and sounded great. I raced a lot of different cars in that thing and only really lost to a few.In some ways I really miss that car.
What the hell is ( kws & nms ) horsepower & torque I suppose. Is that at the rear wheels ? Oh, and one other thing. Why do ALL Ford V8's sound so much better than GM's small or big blocks ?
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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What the hell is ( kws & nms ) horsepower & torque I suppose. Is that at the rear wheels ? Oh, and one other thing. Why do ALL Ford V8's sound so much better than GM's small or big blocks ?
Metric system ways to measure work and torque, respectively.

When I was down in Oz I decided in my brief time one simple thing about Aussies and cars: They will try anything.

Turbo falcon is a fun ride, once you get over the fact you are on the
wrong side of the road.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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Yes it was at the wheels, I think 240kws means about 330rwhp but I dont know what the nm/TQ number is in American anyone else know?
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Originally Posted by ls1wfo
What the hell is ( kws & nms ) horsepower & torque I suppose. Is that at the rear wheels ? Oh, and one other thing. Why do ALL Ford V8's sound so much better than GM's small or big blocks ?
Ford V8's sound better due to running less compression and a more conventional firing order
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Ford V8's sound better due to running less compression and a more conventional firing order

Didn't GM just change the firing order on their V8 engines to that of the Ford Windsor because of some kind of horse power advantage ? Also GM is moving the distributor to the front of the NASCAR engines, like the Fords !

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Originally Posted by ls1wfo
Why do ALL Ford V8's sound so much better than GM's small or big blocks ?
dont know what fords your listening to but with the right exhaust nothing can beat the sound of a chevy, big or small blocks
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Compare an LS1 to a 5.4 DOHC and there is no contest the Ford sound sooo much better.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HSV-GTS-300
Not sure which particular Falcon you are referring to.

Ford (Aust) uses a 4 litre (244cuin) straight 6 and a 5.4 litre ( 329cuin) V8 in many different guises.

The 6 can be had as
a) 190kW (255hp), 383Nm (282ftlbs)
b) 245kw (328hp), 480Nm (354ftlbs) Turbo
c) 270kw (362hp), 550Nm (405ftlbs) F6 Typhoon (Turbo)

The V8 can be had as
d) 230kW (308hp), 500Nm (368ftlbs)
e) 260kW (348hp), Quadcam
f) 290kW (389hp), 520Nm (383ftlbs) Quadcam

http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Conte...agename=DFY/AU
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.aspx
So d) is based on the Windsor pushrod (5.0) architecture, or is it a 2 valve per cyl./OHC mod motor??
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you guys get a lot of cool cars....
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 04:40 AM
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So d) is based on the Windsor pushrod (5.0) architecture, or is it a 2 valve per cyl./OHC mod motor??

Produced in Ford's Windsor plant in Canada, the Barra 230 V8 boasts VCT variable camshaft timing on each camshaft per bank as well as three valves per cylinder, electronic throttle control, failsafe cooling system and unique, Australian-designed inlet and exhaust manifolds.
Reddington said the extra power and torque were by-products of employing additional hardware to improve the knock sensing capability.
"The engine was designed to power the new range of F-Series trucks in the US and always delivered good low-down torque.
"The addition of two knock sensors allows for a more aggressive ignition calibration with the variable camshaft timing and a greater degree of spark advance.
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Originally Posted by HSV-GTS-300
Produced in Ford's Windsor plant in Canada, the Barra 230 V8 boasts VCT variable camshaft timing on each camshaft per bank as well as three valves per cylinder, electronic throttle control, failsafe cooling system and unique, Australian-designed inlet and exhaust manifolds.
Reddington said the extra power and torque were by-products of employing additional hardware to improve the knock sensing capability.
"The engine was designed to power the new range of F-Series trucks in the US and always delivered good low-down torque.
"The addition of two knock sensors allows for a more aggressive ignition calibration with the variable camshaft timing and a greater degree of spark advance.
Oh, OK. So you Ozzies don't have any more currently in production Ford pushrod motors, just like us, right?
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Think the last pushrod motors used were 5.6 litre (stroked 302 Windsors) in the Series 3 TE50 back about 2002.
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But one advantage you Yanks have is price, an AVERAGE Falacon Dohc car(XR8) or Comodore SS/Manaro(Goat)Ls1/Ls2 car costs as much as A new Shelby GT500 about 50,000 bucks and the biggest joke is a FPV Falcon or HSV Comodore cost about the same as a Z06 corvette go figure? I would rather have a ZO6 or GT500 than a Iron block Falcon or bush car(comodore) anyday haha.
For those who dont know FPV or HSV are the Australian performance branches for Australia Ford and GM like SVT is to USA Ford or AMG is to Benz etc.

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by macca_779
Ford V8's sound better due to running less compression and a more conventional firing order
im yet to hear an xr8 or gt that sounds better than an ls1 or ls2
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Formula for kw to hp 1kw=1.346hp, 1Nm=1.34ftlb
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOBOY
Formula for kw to hp 1kw=1.346hp, 1Nm=1.34ftlb
Sorry I meant 1Nm=.736ftlb
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 05:16 AM
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Cool!Thanks GTO BOY thats good to know that formula but which KW rating is that DIN or the other GM uses one and Ford uses the other.
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