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Old 10-04-2004 | 09:24 PM
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I guess I have seen the light of the internet. All itis a bunch of wannabe shops and installers that cant come up with their own ideas so they but products from shops and copy them. They by alternator relocate kits or motorplates and instead of coming up with an original idea it is easier to copy a part and sell it as theirs. I guess this proves the point why this country has gone to ****.The ONE man shops are coming up with ideas and continuing R&D with the 4th gen cars and everybody else IS TOO LAZY to work to better the industry.


OH WELL this is the lazy country we live in. Their will always be leaders AND FOLLOWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-04-2004 | 09:53 PM
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???? Who are you referring to Madman?

Old 10-04-2004 | 10:22 PM
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chris,

i am guessing something to do with motorplates and alt relocate brackets. noo??? but we'll see if we're let in on the source of frustration here, i wouldn't bank on it though...
Old 10-04-2004 | 10:37 PM
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Yeah, that is the American form of capitalism.
Old 10-04-2004 | 10:45 PM
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yeah but I am pretty sure madman didnt invent the motor plate though

On a serious note though I am wondering if he had a specific LS1 based design copied or something?

Old 10-05-2004 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris ARE 385
yeah but I am pretty sure madman didnt invent the motor plate though

On a serious note though I am wondering if he had a specific LS1 based design copied or something?

Well, copied or not, the LS1 mounting holes and 4th gen frame rails are in the same place, so a "different" motorplate is an impossibility, it wouldn't fit very well if it was shaped differently, or had a different "bolt pattern" would it? Kinda like saying that no one other than shop "X" has a right to port heads, they ported them first. Weather selling motorplates, alternator relocation brackets, or ported heads, put out a better quality product than the "competition", and you'll have nothing to worry about, IMO. There are a ton of Madman "followers" for lack of a better term on here, that will continue to support you as they have in the past. As far as the rest of us, we are looking for the best quality readily available pieces at reasonable prices, plain and simple. Also, a website (with pictures) that has been updated within the last two years is a plus.

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Old 10-05-2004 | 10:03 AM
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Sorry Madman if we are causing you pain. Motorplates are made by many different companies, your not the exclusive rights holder for the LS1 motorplate. People will still buy your plates and they will buy our's it's the American way, freedom of choice. We did not copy yours at all, didn't even take any ideas from it. Once again, I am sorry if we pissed you off, but we have as much right to make LS1 motor plates as you do.

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Old 10-05-2004 | 12:34 PM
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I have a question about both motor plates. Do the plates have a pocket cut in them for the water pump gastets? Or do you just crush them between the plate and the block?
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Old 10-05-2004 | 02:42 PM
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Paul, they won't fit a SBF, sorry.

To answer your question, they still crush between the block and the plate. You will have to use 4 water pump gaskets now. Two between the plate & block and two between the water pump & plate.
Old 10-05-2004 | 03:10 PM
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Chris
I dont need a motor plate I'm not tring to go stupid fast.
Huh that's kinda crazy. The state of the art motor plates that I've ben cnc machining have pockets for the gaskets. Just one of thoose things that make it a little nicer I guess.
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PS I have another question about your plate Chris but I'll move it to your thread instead.
Old 10-05-2004 | 05:16 PM
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This isnt APE copying.parts.
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Old 10-05-2004 | 05:26 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up Madman. Sorry for assuming it was us.

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Old 10-05-2004 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@AP-Engineering
Sorry for assuming it was us.
Guilty conscience? j/k
Old 10-05-2004 | 09:25 PM
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Not APE, how bout ARE???? Ahh wait, what the hell would they need a motor plate for, they cant finish a phuckin motor period.


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