LS4 Performance Grand Prix GXP | Monte Carlo SS | Impala SS | LaCrosse Super

True Duals on a LS4 Monte Carlo SS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:08 AM
  #1  
07carlocrusader's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta Georgia USA
Default True Duals on a LS4 Monte Carlo SS

Have you guys seen this? This guy claims to have "true Duals" on the LS4. How???!!? People ask him how did he fab this up & he'll just give short answers. I'm thinking this guy may just have a cut out LOL!!

Check it out:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKy8i...e=channel_page
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:18 AM
  #2  
Nacho SS's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,560
Likes: 0
From: 805-818
Default

flag for that.....I pretty sure that there is no room for real TDs.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 12:41 AM
  #3  
07carlocrusader's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta Georgia USA
Default

Originally Posted by Nacho SS
flag for that.....I pretty sure that there is no room for real TDs.
I agree Nacho!! Did you read his answers!! man!! so short & suspicious!
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 02:37 AM
  #4  
LS4 swap's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Default

I am sure there are several different manifolds that "could" fit, but how do you get the single pre cat and post cat O2 sensors to work on a duel manifold system?
The lack of room under the car is one thing, but the electrical system change is totally different.
Any LSx manifold could work to convert it over to a true duel system, but adding the extra two O2 sensors will be a challenge.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 03:04 AM
  #5  
ChefChub's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 240
Likes: 0
Default

LOL ya guys that is me actually asking how in the f*ck he did that. I call bs
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 05:36 AM
  #6  
07carlocrusader's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta Georgia USA
Default

Originally Posted by ChefChub
LOL ya guys that is me actually asking how in the f*ck he did that. I call bs
I read your reply on this link!!

I can't wait to see what this guy has to say!!
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 08:03 AM
  #7  
Mels SS's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,159
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans La
Default

07carlocrusader,
He could of put the 02 simulators but I raise the flag also!!
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 03:53 PM
  #8  
ChefChub's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 240
Likes: 0
Default

LOL its funny how you think he has a cut out because my cut out open sounds nothing like that

http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...t=4e7add79.pbr
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 04:24 PM
  #9  
Nacho SS's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,560
Likes: 0
From: 805-818
Default

Yeah I commented on that video too and I'm a little dumbfounded because the exhaust exits on one side and there is no room to run true duals thru there and down to the underside of the car. Sure duals are do-able after the down pipe, but then you just make a giant y-pipe.
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 05:25 PM
  #10  
07carlocrusader's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta Georgia USA
Default

yeah Its time for me to ask what the hell is going on here, he even answered back to someone and said:

I used to have a full magnaflow exhaust (headers back) like everyone else... I didn't want to have the same thing, that everyone had already done. So I had gotton rid of that crappy Y pipe, and had someone fabricate straight pipes from the headers back. Less bends in a pipe, the better right? Yes, it is loud, but it sounds good.

Header's back?!
LOL!!
Does this guy knows what he's talking bout here??
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 05:47 PM
  #11  
20SS07's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,115
Likes: 0
From: Reading, Pennsylvania
Default

Probably BS'ing, however I don't get caught up with the random crap that people post on Youtube. And cardomain, there's alot of crap posted there. There's a guy there who claims to have a rear mount STS turbo kit on his Imp SS, however only has a real tiny pic and is always very vague when asked for details. Plenty of these nuts who have nothing better to do then say they have things they don't actually have.

BTW, have you guys seen my turbocharged AND supercharged LS4? haha
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 12:47 AM
  #12  
07carlocrusader's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta Georgia USA
Default

Originally Posted by 20SS07
Probably BS'ing, however I don't get caught up with the random crap that people post on Youtube. And cardomain, there's alot of crap posted there. There's a guy there who claims to have a rear mount STS turbo kit on his Imp SS, however only has a real tiny pic and is always very vague when asked for details. Plenty of these nuts who have nothing better to do then say they have things they don't actually have.

BTW, have you guys seen my turbocharged AND supercharged LS4? haha
LOL!! I seen it!! Have you seen my friend's rear drive 2011 Monte Carlo SS!!?? He had it since January of last year!! LMAO!!

But Seriously, I agree, I just hate when you thought someone has made a breakthrough & their just shootin-the-**** wit ya!
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 01:56 AM
  #13  
Sint3k's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,316
Likes: 3
From: Dolla$ , TX
Default

Sounds like a cutout with rev limiter removed to me.... in a garage that has alot of sound bouncing off walls.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 12:22 PM
  #14  
Brian396's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 749
Likes: 0
From: Ottawa IL
Default

Sounds like my GXP when it had 3” catless dp 3” slp resonator & 2 3” magnaflows. I disagree there is plenty of room for duel 2” pipes under there.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 12:44 PM
  #15  
Nacho SS's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,560
Likes: 0
From: 805-818
Default

Originally Posted by Sint3k
Sounds like a cutout with rev limiter removed to me.... in a garage that has alot of sound bouncing off walls.
I hate when people record sound files in a hollow room like a garage. Its makes the quality too muddy.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 03:11 PM
  #16  
pro_performer's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Waterloo, Illinois
Default

Maybe I am really optimistic, but I hope this guy was able to fab up some true-duals. If he really did, he needs to how some pics of the underbody.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 04:26 PM
  #17  
05CherryGXP's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
Default

I'm trying to work out the math mentally, and I'm honestly not sure if true duals would offer and kind of performance benefit. What I'm thinking is this:

With true duals you have two narrower pipes coming back off the engine, so where you have bends, you'll get more air resistance. Air moves slower along the sides of any kind of pope because it comes in contact with the sides, so with two smaller pipes you increase the friction as compared to one giant pipe with a lot of room in the middle.

On a more tradition RWD true duals make sense because uou don't have to sacrifice pipe size, whereas with our transverse mounted engine, I'd imagine you'd need to use smaller pipes to fit in there, so all you're doing is harming the rate of flow of your exhausts.


Or am I totally messing it up in my head?
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 04:56 PM
  #18  
Mels SS's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,159
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans La
Default

I looked at the video again and found that debris fell under the car about in the middle of the video center of rear and a gust of air when he revved it blew the debris not from the muffler he has a cutout no doubt!!
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 10:55 PM
  #19  
07carlocrusader's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta Georgia USA
Default

Originally Posted by Mels SS
I looked at the video again and found that debris fell under the car about in the middle of the video center of rear and a gust of air when he revved it blew the debris not from the muffler he has a cutout no doubt!!
Damn I was looking at that the first couple of times I was surveying the vid myself! I seen that trash or paper towards the back but I didn't see any exhaust mist, tips weren't flexing or anything like that. Once you fab up a job like this, (if its true)wouldn't you most certainly see pipe flexing?? Due to the lack of hanger mounting locations for true duals on our cars, particularly!? Unless the muffler man is some type of God.....
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:10 AM
  #20  
Mels SS's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,159
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans La
Default

You know it He has a cut out!! Sounds good though.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:09 AM.