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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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So i have a Catless Hogan DP, SLP Catback, and a CAI Intake on the way..Once I get all these in, I plan on getting a tune..Do you guys think I could get 25 hp out of these mods?

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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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So i have a Catless Hogan DP, SLP Catback, and a CAI Intake on the way..Once I get all these in, I plan on getting a tune..Do you guys think I could get 25 hp out of these mods?

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I doubt you'll se 25, but maybe. I never dyno'd mine stock so I have nothing to compare it to.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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25hp is fair I think with a tune.
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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What do we normally dyno bone stock? 255?
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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AG i think your right it is about 255
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AlabamaGuy
What do we normally dyno bone stock? 255?
My GXP dyno'd at just a bit over 252 whp bone stock; so I'd say anywhere between 250 and 255 is normal.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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stock syno #'s vary a lot. I've seen people post as low as 220whp and as high as 260whp. All depends on the dyno.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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The tune will make a huge difference, and with the other mods, may get you close to what you're looking for.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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I put down 238 stock. Every dyno is different.
I'd say you'll see 10-15whp
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yes, with those mods and a tune done right, you could see 25hp/tq gains...
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If you put down 255 and gain 25hp then you'd be making 280whp. Sorry but most guys can barely hit 270fwhp all modded out! Come to think of it.. I bet a catback and intake will only net 5fwhp. The rear exhaust manifold outlet is only 2 1/2" and the Intake neck is super restrictive. You will feel a diff though.. so no worries. 1.8 rockers make the biggest gain.
One thing of interest though, is that our cars do not dyno well. Stock LS4's run about 98-99 through the 1/4 and with a intake, exhaust and tuning they will go through at 102-103. Adding rockers with raised shift points 6100-6200 (5940-50 stock) will increase that mph to 105-106. Tb spacers seem to add part throttle tq with no increase to peak numbers. I think that removing the tq management is what helps boost the mph
Each MPH you gain is about 10 hp at the wheels. So I guess you will see 25hp at the track but not on the dyno. Dynos do lie. I'm confussed by this at times myself.
Good luck and do get tuning or else you will lose power. trust me!
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If you put down 255 and gain 25hp then you'd be making 280whp. Sorry but most guys can barely hit 270fwhp all modded out! Come to think of it.. I bet a catback and intake will only net 5fwhp. The rear exhaust manifold outlet is only 2 1/2" and the Intake neck is super restrictive. You will feel a diff though.. so no worries. 1.8 rockers make the biggest gain.
One thing of interest though, is that our cars do not dyno well. Stock LS4's run about 98-99 through the 1/4 and with a intake, exhaust and tuning they will go through at 102-103. Adding rockers with raised shift points 6100-6200 (5940-50 stock) will increase that mph to 105-106. Tb spacers seem to add part throttle tq with no increase to peak numbers. I think that removing the tq management is what helps boost the mph
Each MPH you gain is about 10 hp at the wheels. So I guess you will see 25hp at the track but not on the dyno. Dynos do lie. I'm confussed by this at times myself.
Good luck and do get tuning or else you will lose power. trust me!

Thank David. I'm sitting here thinking...**** if I was supposed to get 25hp before headers I've been cheated! lol
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Originally Posted by AlabamaGuy
Thank David. I'm sitting here thinking...**** if I was supposed to get 25hp before headers I've been cheated! lol
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david you really know your stuff. i have a question for you though what did you mean all modded out?
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Originally Posted by Hawkins04
david you really know your stuff. i have a question for you though what did you mean all modded out?
Most bolt ons
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so with most bolt ons we really wont got more than 270 whp?
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my first mods were exhaust, downpipe, cold air, tune and i saw about 15-20 hp from all four
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Originally Posted by Hawkins04
so with most bolt ons we really wont got more than 270 whp?
I made 267 hp with catless DP, cutout, and a tune.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkins04
so with most bolt ons we really wont got more than 270 whp?
Yes... with MOST bolt ons. Blame it on our intake manifold and stock exhaust manifolds.
270-285 with 1.8 rockers, headers, CAI, and exhaust. Dyno's are just a tool.
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i was thinking with headers, cai, exhaust, tune, 1.8 rockers we would see a little more whp than 270 im not doubting you i was just curious
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