LS1 Racing

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That's painfully slow, considerning the mods. Back in the day, a Ford rag tested a Terminator Cobra against a 2002 Z28, and while the Terminator was obviously faster, the Camaro ran 12.80's-12.90's bone stock.

Compared to your buddy's car, an LS1 car with similar mods (assuming an aftermarket intake instead of the Ford's plenum) would be deep into the 12's.

The 4.6 2V Mustangs were a bad joke. Sometime around 2001, I raced a Vortech supercharged 99 Mustang GT at Carlsbad in my 2000 Z28 A4 with an LS6 cam, a lid and 3.42 gears. I put a half-second on his ***, and we had similar 2.0x 60-foot times. Both of us were on DRs.

BlackImpSS

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I'm just saying everyone calls them slow when there's 1 posted n/a ls4 time quicker than that. And I don't think any bone stock fbody has gone 12.8 and the few that have gone 12.9X are not exactly common times. Oh and that guy only has like $1000 into his 2v. There must have been something wrong with the vortech mustang. Another guy I know went 12.01 with his tuner not allowing him to launch over 2500 rpm. Bogged bad and that was a 5 speed very with Mach 1000 system. Not a light car.

But I agree an ls1 is light years ahead of a 2v. I just wouldn't call them slow.

TheMonteMan

i would

WhiteKnight '01

Nah, it's a pretty well known fact that the fastest LS1 F-body was a 1998 Z28 and it went 12.8.

LS1 Racing

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You can doubt all you want, but it doesn't make it any less true:




And if you've been around the LS1 F-body seen for any period of time, you'd know that a 12-second stocker, while not exactly an everyday occurance, was not entirely uncommon, either. I know. I was there.

Regarding the Vortech Mustang I beat in the race, who's to say whether it was running right or not? I do know that I had beaten several then-new Fox Body's in that car, and most them ran 14.10's to 14.60's, so I don't think the 13.5x that the Vortech car ran against me was that far off.

But whatever man, you obviously know something we don't, despite your two months and twenty-something posts here.

Not trying to be a dick, even though I probably came across that way. Just setting some history right.

99slpws6

I vote 2v is still slow even with exhaust and all that other ****.

LS1 Racing

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More 12-second stock LS1 F-bodies: https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...ls1-fbody.html

BlackImpSS

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No it's all good. I stand corrected. The only thing I don't understand is why they are doing a burnout on street tires? I've always understood this will make them not hook up as well. And I wasn't trying to take away fromyour win. I was just going off of what my buddies vortech 2v vert did on DRs.

LS1 Racing

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No worries, man!

WhiteKnight '01

That Camaro SS made 321WHP in STOCK form? They got a freak LS1 then, not many of them dyno that high in stock form. Most of the ones from 1998-2000 dyno 290-300, and the ones from '01 and up aren't much higher than 300WHP. I'm pretty sure a 321WHP LS1 in stock form is pretty rare!

LS1 Racing

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Once again, back in the day, quite a few of these cars dynoed in the 310-320 range in stock form. I personally witnessed a 2001 WS6 put 318 to the rear wheels through a paper filter and stock lid, complete with the air baffles. This was on the 2001 Hot Rod Power Tour.

It's a shame that the old ls1.com wiped their forum database and started over because a lot of it was documented over there. LS1Tech was started in late 2001 and didn't really begin to gain popularity until a couple of years later, so they missed out on most of these cars being brand new. Most people don't remember just how strong these cars could be from the factory.

projectX

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My first V8 was an 01 GT and I thought it was great for a beginner V8 - moved up to the LS1 and couldn't be happier, glad I didn't start with this beast or might ended up totaled. lol

WhiteKnight '01

So you are saying because our cars are old and have some miles on them that they are losing significant amounts of power? How much?

TheMonteMan

the pi head 2v with gearing ,and some bolt ons arent a complete joke, but still not a fair match up against the ls1. i still kind of like them though.

iowasls1

^^ they are talking street...the 4.6 belongs in the crown vics not mustangs. they are slow

WhiteKnight '01

LMAO! A 260HP V8 in a 4,000 lb car? Those Crown Vics are about as fast as a Cobalt.

LS1 Racing

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No, I wasn't saying that at all. I guess I wasn't very clear.

What I meant was, there aren't very many completely stock LS1 cars around anymore, or, at least the owners of 100% stockers probably don't post here or anywhere else. And for that reason, we don't have a lot of 1/4 mile times from those cars. Back in the day when these cars were new, plenty of people took them to the track with a stock lid and paper filter and then posted them on ls1.com etc, so there were a lot of documented "fast times".

Another thing is, despite all of the factory 12-second (and faster) cars available in 2012, many people forget or weren't around 10-15 years ago, and when you tell them a stock LS1 car could be a low, low 13 or 12.90 car, they just don't believe it.

And one side note: When I got my Camaro dynoed at CalSpeed, the owner told me that LS cars lose very little HP with high mileage...As long as the motor isn't worn out by poor maintenance. Jim indicated that there's very little power fall-off from break-in to 150,000 or more miles. That explains the 359 RWHP my unopened stock motor put to the rollers with over 160,000 miles on it.

LS1 Racing

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The Crown Vic version was rated lower...I think it was 232 HP or something like that!

WhiteKnight '01

Makes me wonder why we never see a Crown Vic chasing a sports/muscle car on police chase videos. They're always chasing a minvan, an SUV, or some old junker.

SSCoop

I noticed that too. Here in jersey they have the 3.5 silver unmarked chargers on the highways. I know one thing's for sure, they ain't catching me