Confused. Which transgo shift kit is right??
What cooler did you go with? I have a hayden 679 cooler headed my way right now. Ill try to put together a list of PNs for you of what was in that kit, but I dont have it in front of me atm. It's all in the trans now lol i actually have to pick it up this week from the shop.
Master Kit with Borg Warner frictions for 2003+ model years
2 Oversized 2nd steel plates for improved clearance and shift feel
Side cover gasket FEL-PRO Part # TOS18723
US made filter WIX Part # 58918
Transgo SK4T65E shift kit, additional notes included
Sonnax TCC apply valve 84754-43K
Sonnax TCC relief valve 84757-01K
Sonnax Performance ratio boost valve kit 4T65E-LB1
New Valve Body Spacer plate, modified per application
Bushing kit
Thrust Washer kit
Stator support bearing
Input drum to sun gear bearing
Lube dam
Forward apply band, High Energy ACDELCO Part # 24213361
2-1 Coast band, High Energy A84026A
Reconditioned Input clutch apply piston D84964B
OE Pressure Control solenoid ACDELCO Part # 24225825
Borg Warner TCC solenoid AIRTEX / WELLS Part # 2N1217 (cant locate BW pn)
OE shift solenoids x 2 ACDELCO Part # 24219819 ACDELCO Part # 2141766
Revised Oil Pan Magnet ACDELCO Part # 29535617
Reverse Band "High Energy" ACDELCO Part # 24213362
rest of the parts I could find here or on rockauto.com, seals and bushings/bearings usually come as kits from like transtec or transgo. The borg warner frictions, raybestos zpack, or alto kits, i dont have PN's for, also dont have PN's on the 7/8 drive chain conversion.
http://www.bulkpart.com/2/category/4T65E.html
the stage 2 kit from TEP comes with the sonnax billet apply piston... 84965-01K for 3rd gear, and a fully modified valve body ready to install.
2 Oversized 2nd steel plates for improved clearance and shift feel
Side cover gasket FEL-PRO Part # TOS18723
US made filter WIX Part # 58918
Transgo SK4T65E shift kit, additional notes included
Sonnax TCC apply valve 84754-43K
Sonnax TCC relief valve 84757-01K
Sonnax Performance ratio boost valve kit 4T65E-LB1
New Valve Body Spacer plate, modified per application
Bushing kit
Thrust Washer kit
Stator support bearing
Input drum to sun gear bearing
Lube dam
Forward apply band, High Energy ACDELCO Part # 24213361
2-1 Coast band, High Energy A84026A
Reconditioned Input clutch apply piston D84964B
OE Pressure Control solenoid ACDELCO Part # 24225825
Borg Warner TCC solenoid AIRTEX / WELLS Part # 2N1217 (cant locate BW pn)
OE shift solenoids x 2 ACDELCO Part # 24219819 ACDELCO Part # 2141766
Revised Oil Pan Magnet ACDELCO Part # 29535617
Reverse Band "High Energy" ACDELCO Part # 24213362
rest of the parts I could find here or on rockauto.com, seals and bushings/bearings usually come as kits from like transtec or transgo. The borg warner frictions, raybestos zpack, or alto kits, i dont have PN's for, also dont have PN's on the 7/8 drive chain conversion.
http://www.bulkpart.com/2/category/4T65E.html
the stage 2 kit from TEP comes with the sonnax billet apply piston... 84965-01K for 3rd gear, and a fully modified valve body ready to install.
So talked to my local trans shop today that is doing my trans, and he basically told me that realistically everything that is in that stage 1 kit is no different then what they get from their local supplier. He said there is nothing really "performance" about it other then the chain drive swap. He wanted to add an extra input clutch and change the clearances but TEP didnt include enough frictions for that to be possible in the stage 1 kit, while he did say that its a good kit well put together, he said I paid alot more then what he could have actually gotten it for (note: i have connections with these people too so my rates are different). As far as its power holding capacity, he said the trans will be rated no better then what its rated from the factory, unless you do more extensive modifications, and he said even then the internal hard parts are the limiting factor as well. As long as im not drag racing it once a week, he said this trans will last 100,000 miles without a problem even with some abuse. So ill be picking it up this week and ill post some pics of the completed product.
So talked to my local trans shop today that is doing my trans, and he basically told me that realistically everything that is in that stage 1 kit is no different then what they get from their local supplier. He said there is nothing really "performance" about it other then the chain drive swap. He wanted to add an extra input clutch and change the clearances but TEP didnt include enough frictions for that to be possible in the stage 1 kit, while he did say that its a good kit well put together, he said I paid alot more then what he could have actually gotten it for (note: i have connections with these people too so my rates are different). As far as its power holding capacity, he said the trans will be rated no better then what its rated from the factory, unless you do more extensive modifications, and he said even then the internal hard parts are the limiting factor as well. As long as im not drag racing it once a week, he said this trans will last 100,000 miles without a problem even with some abuse. So ill be picking it up this week and ill post some pics of the completed product.
He didn't add it because I didn't provide it, but he said it is unlikely id ever have a problem with it given what I plan on using it for. Was actually kinda surprised that that wasnt in the TEP kit, i know that it had the oversized steel plates for 2nd, but I completely overlooked the fact that it didnt include that extra input clutch. Looking at the TEP website now, it looks like even the stage 2 rebuild kit doesnt include that extra clutch, so I don't know how I would go about getting it without expressly asking for it next time around. Either way i don't think ill have any issues since my goals are between 300-350whp anyway. He just reinforced what I had already known really that i've been posting about, aside from the 300M input shaft, nothing really about these parts in any of the kits, or any of the TEP builds are "performance" orientated, as you can never overcome the limits of the hard parts in the transmission for torque input without going to a physically larger transmission in general. You are merely improving the way the transmission works and fixing the flaws that should have been addressed by the OEM. Line pressure, better clutches, clutch clearances, wider bands, different seals/valving. Etc.
He didn't add it because I didn't provide it, but he said it is unlikely id ever have a problem with it given what I plan on using it for. Was actually kinda surprised that that wasnt in the TEP kit, i know that it had the oversized steel plates for 2nd, but I completely overlooked the fact that it didnt include that extra input clutch. Looking at the TEP website now, it looks like even the stage 2 rebuild kit doesnt include that extra clutch, so I don't know how I would go about getting it without expressly asking for it next time around. Either way i don't think ill have any issues since my goals are between 300-350whp anyway. He just reinforced what I had already known really that i've been posting about, aside from the 300M input shaft, nothing really about these parts in any of the kits, or any of the TEP builds are "performance" orientated, as you can never overcome the limits of the hard parts in the transmission for torque input without going to a physically larger transmission in general. You are merely improving the way the transmission works and fixing the flaws that should have been addressed by the OEM. Line pressure, better clutches, clutch clearances, wider bands, different seals/valving. Etc.
Master Kit with Borg Warner frictions for 2003+ model years
2 Oversized 2nd steel plates for improved clearance and shift feel
Side cover gasket FEL-PRO Part # TOS18723
US made filter WIX Part # 58918
Transgo SK4T65E shift kit, additional notes included
Sonnax TCC apply valve 84754-43K
Sonnax TCC relief valve 84757-01K
Sonnax Performance ratio boost valve kit 4T65E-LB1
New Valve Body Spacer plate, modified per application
Bushing kit
Thrust Washer kit
Stator support bearing
Input drum to sun gear bearing
Lube dam
Forward apply band, High Energy ACDELCO Part # 24213361
2-1 Coast band, High Energy A84026A
Reconditioned Input clutch apply piston D84964B
OE Pressure Control solenoid ACDELCO Part # 24225825
Borg Warner TCC solenoid AIRTEX / WELLS Part # 2N1217 (cant locate BW pn)
OE shift solenoids x 2 ACDELCO Part # 24219819 ACDELCO Part # 2141766
Revised Oil Pan Magnet ACDELCO Part # 29535617
Reverse Band "High Energy" ACDELCO Part # 24213362
rest of the parts I could find here or on rockauto.com, seals and bushings/bearings usually come as kits from like transtec or transgo. The borg warner frictions, raybestos zpack, or alto kits, i dont have PN's for, also dont have PN's on the 7/8 drive chain conversion.
http://www.bulkpart.com/2/category/4T65E.html
the stage 2 kit from TEP comes with the sonnax billet apply piston... 84965-01K for 3rd gear, and a fully modified valve body ready to install.
2 Oversized 2nd steel plates for improved clearance and shift feel
Side cover gasket FEL-PRO Part # TOS18723
US made filter WIX Part # 58918
Transgo SK4T65E shift kit, additional notes included
Sonnax TCC apply valve 84754-43K
Sonnax TCC relief valve 84757-01K
Sonnax Performance ratio boost valve kit 4T65E-LB1
New Valve Body Spacer plate, modified per application
Bushing kit
Thrust Washer kit
Stator support bearing
Input drum to sun gear bearing
Lube dam
Forward apply band, High Energy ACDELCO Part # 24213361
2-1 Coast band, High Energy A84026A
Reconditioned Input clutch apply piston D84964B
OE Pressure Control solenoid ACDELCO Part # 24225825
Borg Warner TCC solenoid AIRTEX / WELLS Part # 2N1217 (cant locate BW pn)
OE shift solenoids x 2 ACDELCO Part # 24219819 ACDELCO Part # 2141766
Revised Oil Pan Magnet ACDELCO Part # 29535617
Reverse Band "High Energy" ACDELCO Part # 24213362
rest of the parts I could find here or on rockauto.com, seals and bushings/bearings usually come as kits from like transtec or transgo. The borg warner frictions, raybestos zpack, or alto kits, i dont have PN's for, also dont have PN's on the 7/8 drive chain conversion.
http://www.bulkpart.com/2/category/4T65E.html
the stage 2 kit from TEP comes with the sonnax billet apply piston... 84965-01K for 3rd gear, and a fully modified valve body ready to install.
I'll quote the ones for some clarification that need part numbers or maybe can only be purchased from TEP:
- Master Kit with Borg Warner frictions for 2003+ model years
- 2 Oversized 2nd steel plates for improved clearance and shift feel
- New Valve Body Spacer plate, modified per application - What does this mean?
- Bushing kit
- Thrust Washer kit
- Stator support bearing
- Input drum to sun gear bearing
- Lube dam
- OE shift solenoids x 2 ACDELCO Part # 24219819 ACDELCO Part # 2141766 - 2 of each part number or one of each?
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