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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 91parkave
Just a FYI there is a fuel filter, internal in the module assembly. Non serviceable.

From the sounds of your issue you need to have your tuner let us know what your fuel trims are coming out too. Also oem o2 sensor?
Yeah I'm gonna go see him later today and have him review the stuff and email me a copy of it. When I get another job I'm gonna have to invest in a hptune program or something . But yes sir stock o2, everything stock besides res delete w/ diff mufflers and tune.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Koren
Yeah I'm gonna go see him later today and have him review the stuff and email me a copy of it. When I get another job I'm gonna have to invest in a hptune program or something . But yes sir stock o2, everything stock besides res delete w/ diff mufflers and tune.
There is no filter inside the gas tank in the fuel pump assembly, only thing on there is the pickup screen, which id be willing to bet money isnt an issue. Don't go paying to have this guy take your car apart when it could be something silly like the converter being changed back to the right one.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by spawne32
There is no filter inside the gas tank in the fuel pump assembly, only thing on there is the pickup screen, which id be willing to bet money isnt an issue. Don't go paying to have this guy take your car apart when it could be something silly like the converter being changed back to the right one.
Oh no my tuner was gonna charge to change the tune if need be, I figured the shop was a idiot once he said that, but having them change the converter to the right one is gonna be like pulling nails out a coffin, ugh man...the sadness lol. I'm gonna see if I can have the shop give me the model converter the put in and look up the specs.

I also asked my tuner for the file and he wasn't quite happy to have to idea of his work being changed or anything so, I dunno. Gonna have to look at it and see if anything is changed.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 10:39 AM
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How could this be an incorrect convertor? Isn't the LS4 flywheel bolt pattern different? How many convertors out there not counting high dollar aftermarket converters would actually fit and be wrong?
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rottonj
How could this be an incorrect convertor? Isn't the LS4 flywheel bolt pattern different? How many convertors out there not counting high dollar aftermarket converters would actually fit and be wrong?
Honestly, i cant say, i can only go by what Koren has described. Since he said that the trans shop told him they used a "larger converter", that would be what he is describing, they went from a 245mm converter to the 258mm that is supposed to be on the LS4.
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I'd also like to point out that this is aamco we are dealing with too.
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Would a 245mm convertor even bolt up? Aamco uses stock replacement , correct. It makes no sense to me, Nothing but the correct stock convertor should bolt up and work, I would think.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rottonj
Would a 245mm convertor even bolt up? Aamco uses stock replacement , correct. It makes no sense to me, Nothing but the correct stock convertor should bolt up and work, I would think.
If his flywheel already had the dual bolt pattern, or if they drilled the new pattern into it, yes it would bolt up just fine. Freeing up that much weight using a 245mm converter could easily result in a 3mpg gain on any of our cars, the problem is there isnt enough lockup clutch material in a converter that small to handle the load our engines and weight of the car place on it.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 11:00 AM
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Do some of our flywheels come with the dual bolt pattern already?
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rottonj
Do some of our flywheels come with the dual bolt pattern already?
I don't think so....but i can't say for certain. Can't see it being difficult for them to do it though, line it up with the pilot hole and drill the new pattern.
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Yes, but drilling to get something to work isn't normal for that type of company. They deal with factory stuff, shouldn't be force fitting anything.. If they did something that stupid they should be choked the **** out.
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does larger mean stall to them?
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rottonj
Yes, but drilling to get something to work isn't normal for that type of company. They deal with factory stuff, shouldn't be force fitting anything.. If they did something that stupid they should be choked the **** out.
Have you heard the back story on how I got my car for 1000 bucks? Guy paid 2400 bucks for a new trans and they never even installed it and gave him the car back. lol
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Originally Posted by superglide9375
does larger mean stall to them?
It could, hard to interpret from this end what it actually meant, higher stall could also result in less MPG but I wouldnt think it would be that drastic. I would have to know the part # of the torque converter. JTFM I believe is the 1900-2100 stall we are supposed to have, however there are a couple variations that range up to 2800.
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Originally Posted by spawne32
Have you heard the back story on how I got my car for 1000 bucks? Guy paid 2400 bucks for a new trans and they never even installed it and gave him the car back. lol
If I remember it did have a pretty blue convertor though
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lol oh yea spawne blue we called it
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Originally Posted by rottonj
If I remember it did have a pretty blue convertor though
yeh they got that far, and then left about 20 bolts missing off the engine and trans. lol besides mine is pretty blue too

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beautiful!!
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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by spawne32
I don't think so....but i can't say for certain. Can't see it being difficult for them to do it though, line it up with the pilot hole and drill the new pattern.

Well I called aamaco and the manager was saying that he only calls them in so he wouldn't know exactly which one the put in but they wouldn't have went with anything but a stock replacement due to the policy of them not building racing transmissions. He asked the mechanic and he said they more than likely put in a 245, he said the last code numbers would have been like 00006 or something. He said I should address my tuner and see if it's anything with the tune vs converter if there's no slipping or anything . Now the rebuilder I know added in extra plate support, replaced the clutches etc, dunno if that has anything to do with it. I have a audio recording of saying how he builds them.
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Originally Posted by Koren
Well I called aamaco and the manager was saying that he only calls them in so he wouldn't know exactly which one the put in but they wouldn't have went with anything but a stock replacement due to the policy of them not building racing transmissions. He asked the mechanic and he said they more than likely put in a 245, he said the last code numbers would have been like 00006 or something. He said I should address my tuner and see if it's anything with the tune vs converter if there's no slipping or anything . Now the rebuilder I know added in extra plate support, replaced the clutches etc, dunno if that has anything to do with it. I have a audio recording of saying how he builds them.
So you had a guy build it , and AAmco installed it or this was over a period of time this happened ?
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