Cam Heads Combo
Take my advice with a grain of salt because I don't know much about h/c/i, but I will tell what little I really know. I hear constant great things about Lloyd Elliot. AI machine ports their heads and LE does each set himself...Some people may or may not like that, but Once you have been doing it as long LE has you get dang good; it is probably second nature to him. He can give you a great setup on a budget and I doubt any slight differences between AI and LE warrant the much higher price, but I could be wrong.
One thing I do know for sure is that some people on here need to take a chill pill. Putting smiles after telling someone they are ignorant, to f&#K off, or that you are going to run a train on their sister do not exactly water those remarks down much even if they are partly in jest. I am sure that as "adults" (and not kids) we can all find better ways to disagree with each others opinions. Talking smack on the internet solely belongs on the import forums and adultfriendfinder.com lol(i hate that pop up cause everybody knows it means somebody was looking at something naughty).
One thing I do know for sure is that some people on here need to take a chill pill. Putting smiles after telling someone they are ignorant, to f&#K off, or that you are going to run a train on their sister do not exactly water those remarks down much even if they are partly in jest. I am sure that as "adults" (and not kids) we can all find better ways to disagree with each others opinions. Talking smack on the internet solely belongs on the import forums and adultfriendfinder.com lol(i hate that pop up cause everybody knows it means somebody was looking at something naughty).
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You done did it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone mentioned someone OTHER than Advanced Induction in a thread trolled by 96capricemgr. You ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go back to your room!!!!!!!!
j/k
There are several places that offer outstanding work and service with the main 2 in the LT1 world being Ai and LE.
FWIW a local guy here had an LE2 package on a stock shortblock, with an M6 car. This was 3 years ago too, not sure if the LE2 package is the same or not to be honest. We went for a cruise (there were about 10 of us), and the red Z lined up next to my friends Viper with intake/exhaust (about 450rwhp). They did a long pull from about 40-130+, and the Z pulled him pretty damn good 3-4 lengths.
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The funny thing is that I was right behind the Viper and I didn't know they were going to "get on it". When they did, the sound was just insane! I never even stood on it to catch up or anything, and from my vantage point I could tell the Z was ahead, and by the time they stopped they were a mile up.
I've got le2 heads and an le3.2 cam in a 383 that laid down 437rwhp and 408 rwtq on Ed Wrights dyno. He said I'd see about 10 more on newer dyno's. I figure with the motor being new and I did have some bugs that hurt the numbers that it was darn good. I talked to Llyod and he helped me out alot. He always returned my calls and everything. My next lt1 if I ever get one will have an AI kit just so I can argue either way. Very happy with LE.
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From: Kennesaw, GA
Everybody talks about LE being cheaper. Only his budget heads and LE1 heads using stock valves are cheaper. LE2's are very close in price 1650 with cam which are about equal to AI's 190 cc head at 1745 with cam. Yes that only $95. And AI's seem to flow more with a slightly smaller runner.
However LE's budget heads at $750 can not be beat for someone looking for a valve job and budget porting that would give a nice increase in horsepower when one of several mild cams were installed at the same time.
Either will give you good results. I was going to use LE because I have a 97 with the thinner castings the AI does not port. After seeing AI bring back ther 1900 cc runner with CNC porting I have now sourced a set of castings off of E-bay for AI to port soon. My vote goes to AI for $95 more!!!
However LE's budget heads at $750 can not be beat for someone looking for a valve job and budget porting that would give a nice increase in horsepower when one of several mild cams were installed at the same time.
Either will give you good results. I was going to use LE because I have a 97 with the thinner castings the AI does not port. After seeing AI bring back ther 1900 cc runner with CNC porting I have now sourced a set of castings off of E-bay for AI to port soon. My vote goes to AI for $95 more!!!
I have the 226/234 AI cam and eventually will go with the 200cc heads from AI. I havent fired up the motor since the cam as i need a few more things but so far i have been very happy, quick shipping, good customer service, and the cam package with everything you need is a hell of a deal.
As for LE there is alot of people running them and i haven't heard anything bad, i was looking into the LE2 package before but decided to go with AI for really no big reasons just wanted to be differen't haha.
Either way you go i'm sure you'll be happy, AI's heads will be a little more cash but with them being machine ported and not by hand that is where the extra cost is coming into play. but as mbowtie71 said it's only about 100 bucks more. Def worth it for the CNC ported heads
Good luck with your choice!
As for LE there is alot of people running them and i haven't heard anything bad, i was looking into the LE2 package before but decided to go with AI for really no big reasons just wanted to be differen't haha.
Either way you go i'm sure you'll be happy, AI's heads will be a little more cash but with them being machine ported and not by hand that is where the extra cost is coming into play. but as mbowtie71 said it's only about 100 bucks more. Def worth it for the CNC ported heads
Good luck with your choice!
Well AI has multiple heads from stock ported castings to ported trickflows, ported Darts, and ported LT4's. For the ported stock castings they have 200cc and 190cc packages which come with your choice of any of their billet cams of your choice. If you call they can help you pick a good set-up. I went with the 226/234 cam and will go back for the 200cc heads eventually. Just give them a call and they'll fill you in on everything.
I didn't respond last night after reading that smart *** comment, had to cool off so not to start a bashing contest, ALL i was stateing is my esperience with Lloyd, i've had about 3 phone conversations with him, every time he was very pleasant, gave me some ins/outs on what i could do, whether it be his products, or on my own useing other cams, to me, that doesn't sound like a guy just in it for the money, i like dealing with people like that, i've delt with many ****** when it comes to looking at performance stuff, but guys like Lloyd will get my business, & i'll always recammend him too others, thats what makes good business practices, as for the smart-*** comment earlier, i consider the source, he will dig his own grave sooner or later, "hopefully sooner then later", i wouldn't compare him to 96Caprice, at least 96Caprice speaks knowledge, & hes straight forward!!!
I didn't respond last night after reading that smart *** comment, had to cool off so not to start a bashing contest, ALL i was stateing is my esperience with Lloyd, i've had about 3 phone conversations with him, every time he was very pleasant, gave me some ins/outs on what i could do, whether it be his products, or on my own useing other cams, to me, that doesn't sound like a guy just in it for the money, i like dealing with people like that, i've delt with many ****** when it comes to looking at performance stuff, but guys like Lloyd will get my business, & i'll always recammend him too others, thats what makes good business practices, as for the smart-*** comment earlier, i consider the source, he will dig his own grave sooner or later, "hopefully sooner then later", i wouldn't compare him to 96Caprice, at least 96Caprice speaks knowledge, & hes straight forward!!!
I didn't respond last night after reading that smart *** comment, had to cool off so not to start a bashing contest, ALL i was stateing is my esperience with Lloyd, i've had about 3 phone conversations with him, every time he was very pleasant, gave me some ins/outs on what i could do, whether it be his products, or on my own useing other cams, to me, that doesn't sound like a guy just in it for the money, i like dealing with people like that, i've delt with many ****** when it comes to looking at performance stuff, but guys like Lloyd will get my business, & i'll always recammend him too others, thats what makes good business practices, as for the smart-*** comment earlier, i consider the source, he will dig his own grave sooner or later, "hopefully sooner then later", i wouldn't compare him to 96Caprice, at least 96Caprice speaks knowledge, & hes straight forward!!!
Glad to see AI being a sponsor on here now, about time!!
The AI product is consistant due to the CNC process, a hand job will not be consistant.
The comparison of the 2 is funny really but it keeps happening.
I like the numbers seen from the AI set ups in comparison to others.
The AI product is consistant due to the CNC process, a hand job will not be consistant.
The comparison of the 2 is funny really but it keeps happening.
I like the numbers seen from the AI set ups in comparison to others.
Agreed 100% I just wish i had cash for my 200cc heads haha. Or to even finish my motor so i can put down some damn good numbers with my AI cam only motor.