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Old 01-05-2009, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by joelster
Those are very impressive track numbers no doubt, but something about all of the vehicle specs don't jive.

Race weight =31XX (we'll go with 3100)
Converter=3XXX stall (we'll go with 3500ish)
CI=350 (stock)


Here's the kicker...

60 foot time=1.41 (n/a mind you) with 3.73's and a tallish tire like you said.

So this guy is putting down about ...oh I don't know............500hp at the wheels? With a 22X cam? I'd believe those numbers if the car was really around 2800-2900lbs and the stall was over 4G and it had 4.10's or something. Maybe you can get this guy to post up.

I'm not hating at all, honestly, it just seems too good to be true.

Man you smoke some good ****, I MUST be making 600rwhp at my weight huh?

At 3100 lbs he is making around 400rwhp to run that, impressive seeing as its a stock bottom end, n20 setup.
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Again, very impressive. Congrats.
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
Man you smoke some good ****, I MUST be making 600rwhp at my weight huh?

At 3100 lbs he is making around 400rwhp to run that, impressive seeing as its a stock bottom end, n20 setup.
He ran a 10.55 with a 31XX lb car. He is making around 440ish at the wheels. I don't like to use those "calculators" because they generally give you ballpark numbers but physics doesn't lie.

Plug them in yourself:

http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com/calcs/dragcalc.html

http://www.wallaceracing.com/hpcalculatorquarter.php
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 435.45 rear wheel HP and 483.84 flywheel HP.

On a 350 with a 22x cam. 483 crank hp?


Oh and BTW your car came out to this

Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 477.89 rear wheel HP and 530.99 flywheel HP.
3750lbs, 10.84@ 124, again those are ballpark give or take a few.
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Originally Posted by joelster
He ran a 10.55 with a 31XX lb car. He is making around 440ish at the wheels. I don't like to use those "calculators" because they generally give you ballpark numbers but physics doesn't lie.

Plug them in yourself:

http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com/calcs/dragcalc.html

http://www.wallaceracing.com/hpcalculatorquarter.php
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 435.45 rear wheel HP and 483.84 flywheel HP.

On a 350 with a 22x cam. 483 crank hp?


Oh and BTW your car came out to this

Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 477.89 rear wheel HP and 530.99 flywheel HP.
3750lbs, 10.84@ 124, again those are ballpark give or take a few.
I don't see that being that far of a stretch, I'm making 430rwhp with the same combo with a stock unported intake and stock water pump. If I was to throw an electric water pump and port my intake I dont see 440-450rwhp being a problem.
Old 01-05-2009, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
I don't see that being that far of a stretch, I'm making 430rwhp with the same combo with a stock unported intake and stock water pump. If I was to throw an electric water pump and port my intake I dont see 440-450rwhp being a problem.
Wow, very impressive! What are your cam specs if you don't mind?
Old 01-05-2009, 07:18 PM
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Holy ****! 9.8 on a stock 350 w/ a daily driver cam? Wow.

Wonder what it runs in street trim?
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I also think if I set my car up specifically for Drags I would be pretty close to that.
If I still had the 10 bolt My car would be at 430rwhp/385rwtq. With the S60 its 413.66/366 but I have a LE2 set up.
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Just like everyone else said, VERY IMPRESSIVE! It seems like everything you guys build are smokin', especially the mph's on all your customers set ups. You guys are definitely something to look into for my future build.
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Originally Posted by joelster
He ran a 10.55 with a 31XX lb car. He is making around 440ish at the wheels. I don't like to use those "calculators" because they generally give you ballpark numbers but physics doesn't lie.

Plug them in yourself:

http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com/calcs/dragcalc.html

http://www.wallaceracing.com/hpcalculatorquarter.php
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 435.45 rear wheel HP and 483.84 flywheel HP.

On a 350 with a 22x cam. 483 crank hp?


Oh and BTW your car came out to this

Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 477.89 rear wheel HP and 530.99 flywheel HP.
3750lbs, 10.84@ 124, again those are ballpark give or take a few.
Those calcs are always waaayy off for stalled autos. Although physics "doesn't lie" there are just too many variables to always say you need xxx hp to run xx.x ET. There is a lot more to a 1/4s ET then just the wheel horsepower - look at the 600hp supras stuck in 11s then ask how my 345rwhp stock cube build also did 11.7s with crappy hogged out heads...and could have been faster without adding any more horsepower.
Old 01-05-2009, 07:33 PM
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Huge props to AI for an awesome setup. Very impressive times and on a somewhat mild cam nonetheless. It's obvious that you guys have done your homework. If I ever quit chasing the bolt on dream, my mind is made up on a h/c combo.
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Originally Posted by joelster
Wow, very impressive! What are your cam specs if you don't mind?
Just a 22x intake lobe.
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Kick *** times for sure! I think there's gonna be another stock short block car running similar times soon

Originally Posted by joelster
That's EASILY another 100hp at the wheels. Probably more like 120 or so. On a 350.
Crazy you mention 120 more or so, cause I picked up 120 rwhp with an AI heads/cam on my LT1 Camaro combo waaaaay back in the day!
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VERY nice times/mph guys..What does he shift at? And cross the finish line at? Just curious...
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Originally Posted by joelster
He ran a 10.55 with a 31XX lb car. He is making around 440ish at the wheels. I don't like to use those "calculators" because they generally give you ballpark numbers but physics doesn't lie.

Plug them in yourself:

http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com/calcs/dragcalc.html

http://www.wallaceracing.com/hpcalculatorquarter.php
Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 435.45 rear wheel HP and 483.84 flywheel HP.

On a 350 with a 22x cam. 483 crank hp?


Oh and BTW your car came out to this

Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 477.89 rear wheel HP and 530.99 flywheel HP.
3750lbs, 10.84@ 124, again those are ballpark give or take a few.
First I gotta say that the car is damn impressive! Nice work guys...Joelster, the hp calculators never seem to jive with stalled autos...Think it was already said, but just look at my combo...I know I'm a 383 but I make 375 rwhp on a calibrated Mustang dyno..I'm at around 3650 race weight...If I were to drop 500 lbs I wouldnt be too far off his pace while still being at 375 rwhp...and I run a weenie 226/234 cam...

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Old 01-05-2009, 09:25 PM
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keep in mind his car is setup for nitrous. taller tires, 3.73's, and a 3xxx converter in there. although im pretty sure hes using a t-brake judging by his n/a 60'.
if setup for motor it would be ROLLING n/a... quite a bit faster.
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Congrats on the awesome times...there are more reasons everyday why I should go with AI......
Old 01-06-2009, 08:31 AM
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time and time again, AI proves they are making their customers smile!
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Originally Posted by vtec
keep in mind his car is setup for nitrous. taller tires, 3.73's, and a 3xxx converter in there. although im pretty sure hes using a t-brake judging by his n/a 60'.
if setup for motor it would be ROLLING n/a... quite a bit faster.
AI, is that foot brakin it got leaving off a trans-brake?

Also AI, would you be able to PM me the cam spec's to see if it is close to mine? I'm looking at going with these heads and would like to see if they would fit my cam as well as they do his. Hope to hear from you guys when you get a chance, Thanks!
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A.I is the way to bad *** sh/t all the way....very impressive car and looks just like mine
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Nice.


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