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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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Is it possibe to put gen 1 heads on an lt1?
If so,what do i have to do?

I did a serch and could not find the answer

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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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I dont think so.. reverse cooling and all
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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I dont think so.. reverse cooling and all
+1. Why would you want to anyways?
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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why would you want to? because there are some pretty awesome SBC heads out there. yes you can convert them. when I was looking in to it lloyd mentioned a few people that did it for around $400-$600.
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I already have a set of pro topline 235's for a gen1.
And the LT1 bottom end i have is fresh.If it was a matter of modifying some coolant passages i would like to use the heads that i have.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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yes you can covert heads from gen 1 to gen 2

you have to convert the heads to reverse cooling

the LT1 aftermarket is limited to 23 degree heads and the new trickflow 21 degree heads I heard about

the gen 1 head selection is amazing, plenty of reason to want to convert, 18 degree SB2.2 heads had one guy trapping 137+ mph n/a on an LT1
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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oh and if you reuse the LT1 intake you will have to redrill the bolt holes for a gen 1 intake
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1DUCE
I already have a set of pro topline 235's for a gen1.
And the LT1 bottom end i have is fresh.If it was a matter of modifying some coolant passages i would like to use the heads that i have.
If I had those heads, I would too!!!
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by zigroid
why would you want to? because there are some pretty awesome SBC heads out there. yes you can convert them. when I was looking in to it lloyd mentioned a few people that did it for around $400-$600.
wow didnt think it was possible and figured if it was it would be way more $$ than that.
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Originally Posted by myltwon
oh and if you reuse the LT1 intake you will have to redrill the bolt holes for a gen 1 intake

but if you were into a build that would benefit from swapping to sbc heads, i believe it would be an advantage to use a sbc intake
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Originally Posted by SLawson86
but if you were into a build that would benefit from swapping to sbc heads, i believe it would be an advantage to use a sbc intake
If you wanted to do a single plane conversion, I have seen some people reuse heavily worked LT1 intake manifolds.
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Originally Posted by SLawson86
but if you were into a build that would benefit from swapping to sbc heads, i believe it would be an advantage to use a sbc intake
of course just stating, that if he wanted to retain the stock intake so he doesn't have to a) convert to carb b) spend big money on sheet metal intake or c) spend money on a high dollar gen 1 EFI intake

me personally I'd rather reuse the LT1 intake to cut alot of cost and hassle, plus throw off people when they try to guess what the car has done
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Yes it can be done. No, it's not very difficult to do, you MUST run a new SBC style intake though because the LT1 intake manifold bolt pattern is different. A lot of guys will run the Edelbrock Victor EFI manifold, and the Edelbrock fuel rails. It is pointless to do this mod unless you are looking at a very high rpm motor, because ported stock LT1 castings are more than sufficient.
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Originally Posted by LS1DUCE
I already have a set of pro topline 235's for a gen1.
And the LT1 bottom end i have is fresh.If it was a matter of modifying some coolant passages i would like to use the heads that i have.
I have the exact heads on my LT1, with a super vic, elbow and a monoblade.

CFM(creative flow management) did my conversion. It was $400.

You have to re route the oil return and modify some coolant passages. If you use a standard Gen1 intake like I did they bolt right together. I used the 2 rear coolant ports on the super vic for my coolant bypass.

If you have the heads already, it is WELL worth it. And no it doesnt have to be a HIGH rpm engine, I have stock electronics, opti still in place. My power peaks at 6800.

DOnt waste your money trying to put a stock style intake on these heads. You will choke them. If you are gonna do that port the stockers.

See times in my sig.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
I have the exact heads on my LT1, with a super vic, elbow and a monoblade.

CFM(creative flow management) did my conversion. It was $400.

You have to re route the oil return and modify some coolant passages. If you use a standard Gen1 intake like I did they bolt right together. I used the 2 rear coolant ports on the super vic for my coolant bypass.

If you have the heads already, it is WELL worth it. And no it doesnt have to be a HIGH rpm engine, I have stock electronics, opti still in place. My power peaks at 6800.

DOnt waste your money trying to put a stock style intake on these heads. You will choke them. If you are gonna do that port the stockers.

See times in my sig.
Thanks for the reply.I do plan on using a super victor and its going to be carbed.Does any one have any pics of the mods?
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The blue plugs were threaded in and the hole above them was angle drilled to be the oil drain.

Re-drill intake, but you wont have to do that

Otherwise just drill and tap a hole in the rear for the coolant tubes
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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So where the blue plug is,thats were the original oil drain was right ?

When you say drill and tap for the vent you mean do it the same as the lt1 head.I'm not trying to repeat what you said i'm just trying to be sure.

Do any of the coolant passages need to be blocked off on the gen 1 head?
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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That is correct. Then the drain was re-drilled at an angle to clear the plug as you can see. You can accomplish this with welding as well.
I really dont recall what else is needed so hopefully someone else chimes in. I do not have the heads here to look at
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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i know someone that has a bad a$$ set of rhs 235's ported by meaux racing. they have been converted by CFM and the heads are brand new. pm me if anyone is interested
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MAKE NO MISTAKE if this is not done correctly you WILL ruin an engine. It is not as easy as what the pics lead you to believe. If you look CLOSE to that top pic on the left side you can see where the head surface was welded up and re-surfaced. WHere the blue plug is its darker, see the square part?

Pay the money and have it done RIGHT.

You do not have to drill the rear of the heads for the steam/coolant passages. As I stated earlier, use the 2 rear coolant ports on the intake, "T" them together and run it to the radiator.Here is the best pic I have.

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