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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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I will probably go with the cc502 or the hot cam,will they run ok till I get my tune?
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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it should run ok but a tune will get the most out of it
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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It will run but obviously not to it's full potential. Me personally, I wouldn't drive it a lot until the tune. With just a cam only you should be ok sending your PCM off for a mail order tune. You should just send it off before/during the swap that way by the time your finished it will be done and ready to put back in.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by clwz28
I will probably go with the cc502 or the hot cam,will they run ok till I get my tune?
I assume you meant CC503. That's the cam I have. I have a mail order tune from MadZ28. It runs perfectly. If you have to wait a while until you get a tune, it will run, just don't beat on it and you should be fine.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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comp has multiple grinds: cc502, cc305, cc503, cc306, etc

I'd recommend a real dyno tune, car will be driveable with that cam without a tune but to get the most out you'll want one
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by myltwon
comp has multiple grinds: cc502, cc305, cc503, cc306, etc

I'd recommend a real dyno tune, car will be driveable with that cam without a tune but to get the most out you'll want one
Oh, I knew of the CC306, and CC305, didn't know there was a CC502.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
I assume you meant CC503. That's the cam I have. I have a mail order tune from MadZ28. It runs perfectly. If you have to wait a while until you get a tune, it will run, just don't beat on it and you should be fine.
what are your other mods and what do you have for #'s? ive been looking at this cam and am wondering what you make to the wheels.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lt1noob
what are your other mods and what do you have for #'s? ive been looking at this cam and am wondering what you make to the wheels.
CC503
crane duals, CC 1.6 promags, guideplates, pushrods, ARP studs
SLP SS CAI
52mm TB
Pacesetter 1 3/4" LT headers and y-pipe, SLP 2OTL exhaust
stock heads & intake.
T56, 10-bolt

No dyno numbers yet, but I raced my buddy with a LS1 that dyno'd 340/350 from a roll at 55mph and he gets me by about 2 cars at 140 mph. Don't know if that tells you much though. This set up is "supposed" to put down around 330 rwhp.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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My hotcam setup put around 340 0_o then again idk the specs on a 503
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
My hotcam setup put around 340 0_o then again idk the specs on a 503
224/230 .502/.510 (1.5 rr's) 112lsa. Definitely better than the hotcam.
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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it will be driveable, but like these guys said i wouldnt beat on it until you get the tune..
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
224/230 .502/.510 (1.5 rr's) 112lsa. Definitely better than the hotcam.
So why did I make more power with a hotcam?
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Old Jan 27, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
So why did I make more power with a hotcam?
Maybe your opti wasn't acting up that day...jk

Idk man, same mods? same tuner?
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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CC502 will drive fine without a tune. I drove around with my CC306 untuned for 2 weeks no problems for the car it just ran kinda... rough. I wouldn't worry about babying the car either, you won't hurt it
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Back to OP.. IMO without a tune the A4 it will idle like crap.. '94 stock idle setting is 550 RPM in drive , 650 in p/n .. with 305 or hot cam your up in the range of 218-224/ 228-230 , .500-.525 with stock rockers. However the 112 LSA is going to give you a rotten idle in drive at 550 RPM. Unless you want to throw it in 'N' whenever you stop, I would recommend one or all of --- add timing to the closed TPS table, tweak the TBS stop and add a couple hundred RPM's to the idle speeds keep it smooth at stop lites. Also you may want to move up the stall installation time table, that would help with idle and take advantage of the CAM.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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my cc503 car made 325rwhp through midlengths and an unlocked stalled auto. this was on a 130k+ mile motor
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Thanks for all the advice,I will be putting my stall in real soon,and next month or two do the cam(502cc),I read a thread on this cam laying down 328 rwh/358t on a bolt on 95 vette.
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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does i don't think his idle quality will be too bad, especially if he has a 114 lsa not the 112
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Old Jan 28, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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the idle quality between a 112 and 114 is pretty minimal

put a cc305 (114lsa) next to a hotcam (112lsa) and they'll sound like the same cam imo

big duration will also have an effect on lope
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