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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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As hard as it is to install headers on these cars I really dont see why anyone would want to install shortys. Can someone tell me what advantage shortys have over long or mid tube headers? I just installed my Mac mids and love them. They fit great. I had to install both from the bottom. If I were you I would find some way of selling them to some other poor sap. I've been in that same situation of feeling guilty before. You just have to be clever about it hehehe.
They weigh less
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by moderate Z28
As hard as it is to install headers on these cars I really dont see why anyone would want to install shortys. Can someone tell me what advantage shortys have over long or mid tube headers? I just installed my Mac mids and love them. They fit great. I had to install both from the bottom. If I were you I would find some way of selling them to some other poor sap. I've been in that same situation of feeling guilty before. You just have to be clever about it hehehe.
There is no advantage to installing shorties, sorry if that offends any of you shorty girls.

Every car is different, my longtubes would not go in from top, no way.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by moderate Z28
As hard as it is to install headers on these cars I really dont see why anyone would want to install shortys. Can someone tell me what advantage shortys have over long or mid tube headers? I just installed my Mac mids and love them. They fit great. I had to install both from the bottom. If I were you I would find some way of selling them to some other poor sap. I've been in that same situation of feeling guilty before. You just have to be clever about it hehehe.
Not the car, the lt1. I have shorties, granted I made them with minimal knowledge of header design. 17 rwhp and 17 lb.tq. dyno proven. That was over the 2 1/2 " ramshorn I ran. I have yet seen anyone post a true dyno gain from long tubes vs mids vs shorties. 3900# bolt-on 12.86 with shorties.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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hahaha its funny cuz it always seems like its taboo to talk about shorties on here, im starting to think again about selling the one's i got
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfen
hahaha its funny cuz it always seems like its taboo to talk about shorties on here, im starting to think again about selling the one's i got
Trust me, you'll either...
A) Live happy unbeknowst to the gains you could be having with LT's.
B) Regret it and live with the minimal gains provided by the shoties.
C) Swap to LT's in the future and kick yourself for not doing it earlier.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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I have the mac mid-lengths also.. I love em.. For a little added durability and protection, I took the headers and Y-Pipe to Performance Coating Specialties in Arlington, Texas. They ceramic coated them and I couldn't be any happier with the end results. Long tubes are nice but after 3 seperate friends in 3 different f bodies (1 trans am, 2 camaros) all damaged their long tubes from hitting those big "city t*tties" in the roadway, I decided to take a 5hp loss and go with mid-length headers. Glad I did!
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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well the ones i got for free mind you, are ceramic coated
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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I had the same headers you're putting on your car, when I bought mine. I hated those things. Plug access is horrible with them. You should've asked for a gift receipt, so you could return them for the ungodly amount they cost. lol. They're like $500 for the headers and y-pipe. You could get some pacesetter LT's and an x-pipe fabbed up for cheaper than that.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfen
well the ones i got for free mind you, are ceramic coated
You need a set of these
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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I had the same headers you're putting on your car, when I bought mine. I hated those things. Plug access is horrible with them. You should've asked for a gift receipt, so you could return them for the ungodly amount they cost. lol. They're like $500 for the headers and y-pipe. You could get some pacesetter LT's and an x-pipe fabbed up for cheaper than that.
yea i looked them up on summit and for the price i can get some decent long tubes thats why i'd feel guilty, maybe i can sell them to some chump or chumpette for like $350
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
You need a set of these
what kind of Long tubes are those? and where can i get some?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfen
what kind of Long tubes are those? and where can i get some?
These are the LPP (LaMonte Performance Parts) headers. The newer design is coming out here soon. Great header for the buck!
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