vortech or procharger
#21
how much boost do you want to run? street car or drag car? HP goal? I can help get you going in the right direction, I just need your goals and specifics.
#22
Im sorry man, but i have to ask. Are you like a 16 year old kid or something? You are basing a serious build basically of the sound of the car. People are saying turbo, because most of the time a turbo is more efficent and can give you bigger power. I have a freind around here, he has a low 9 second trans-am, with a giant turbo on it, and it deffinatly doesent sound "ricey" it sounds bitchin! Please post intelligently. thank you. Good luck.
#24
I would honestly go supercharger myself. But like others have said we need to know ur goals for the car. A turbo has lag while a supercharger is there as soon as u hit the gas. Im sure more people have a lot more info on the subject than i do. I dont have any intention on goin forced induction. I have heard that the sts kits dont produced very good numbers all the time. Procharger and vortec are very respectable brands. Also there are many good brands of turbos. You should also post up ur question in the forced induction section im sure those guys could give you tons of info. Good luck on ur build. Also when doing forced induction u definitely need to go forged on all ur internals of ur engine when u do the rebuild.
#26
I would honestly go supercharger myself. But like others have said we need to know ur goals for the car. A turbo has lag while a supercharger is there as soon as u hit the gas. Im sure more people have a lot more info on the subject than i do. I dont have any intention on goin forced induction. I have heard that the sts kits dont produced very good numbers all the time. Procharger and vortec are very respectable brands. Also there are many good brands of turbos. You should also post up ur question in the forced induction section im sure those guys could give you tons of info. Good luck on ur build. Also when doing forced induction u definitely need to go forged on all ur internals of ur engine when u do the rebuild.
Blowers are fun, and can generally be had cheaper, and on an lt1, are packaged much better. The original poster doesnt sound like he is ready for a turbo or a blower, judging from his posts.
#27
Just for the record, centrifugal blowers have "lag" as well, they dont make full boost until way up in the rpms, whereas a proper turbo setup can come onto full boost lower than 3000 or so, depending on many variables. A proper turbo setup will CRUSH a centrifugal blower setup under the curve, and it doesnt take ALOT of power to turn a turbo compared to a crank driven supercharger.
Blowers are fun, and can generally be had cheaper, and on an lt1, are packaged much better. The original poster doesnt sound like he is ready for a turbo or a blower, judging from his posts.
Blowers are fun, and can generally be had cheaper, and on an lt1, are packaged much better. The original poster doesnt sound like he is ready for a turbo or a blower, judging from his posts.
#28
from what i hear, turbos are good for A4 cars but dont work out so well for M6 cars. im not sure if its referring to most turbo setups or just the sts one but from what i hear a turbo wont make full boost until 3rd gear on an M6. great for roll racing tho
#29
i never said that i want to build it for the sound all i said is i like the sound. i want to do a s/c build cause i need to pass emisions and this is my everyday car, i wanna make about 400 hp
Last edited by Chrisd000111; 02-19-2009 at 01:26 PM.
#31
not sure how the sts setup modifies the factory exhaust but I'm not a big fan of it due to a couple things
#32
i had to get rid of my last procharger bit ill get another one. you just have to decide??
you wunna go fast??? go turbo
you want a supercharger?? get a procharger. but like said back there dont go
smaller than the D1SC
you wunna pass emissions?? u cant go fast lol just man up and start BUYING your stickers lol pay tha cost to be tha boss son
good luck
you wunna go fast??? go turbo
you want a supercharger?? get a procharger. but like said back there dont go
smaller than the D1SC
you wunna pass emissions?? u cant go fast lol just man up and start BUYING your stickers lol pay tha cost to be tha boss son
good luck
#33
a turbo setup requires the use of log style manifolds/reversed stockers which would negate the use of EGR/AIR equipment, also the repositioning of the cat could disqualify it aswell.
not sure how the sts setup modifies the factory exhaust but I'm not a big fan of it due to a couple things
not sure how the sts setup modifies the factory exhaust but I'm not a big fan of it due to a couple things
and you can add a cat. turbo regals?
#34
thing you don't understand is some states will disqualify a car in emissions testing if the car is relocated from the stock position AT ALL
your avg front mount turbo will require the deletion of AIR pump and egr tube unless you want to custom fab your own egr setup, and that's even IF the emissions shop will accept it
a car that came from the factory with a turbo setup has nothing to do with a car that was n/a from the factory and you're adding a boost setup to it. the manufacturer develops emissions equipment to function on it from the factory and turboing an n/a car requires the modification and or deletion of existing emissions equip
your avg front mount turbo will require the deletion of AIR pump and egr tube unless you want to custom fab your own egr setup, and that's even IF the emissions shop will accept it
a car that came from the factory with a turbo setup has nothing to do with a car that was n/a from the factory and you're adding a boost setup to it. the manufacturer develops emissions equipment to function on it from the factory and turboing an n/a car requires the modification and or deletion of existing emissions equip
#39
IF you want to go FAST go turbo. Some have success with prochargers, but the kits are crap and need completely redesigned to maintain reliability. Trust me I had a p1sc charger. I made 430whp 440wtq on 8psi(stock lt1), but the reliabilty suckd and there was always something fukin up. I sold it three years ago because the car was not enjoyable. i like to drive my car more than working on it lol! Also two friends of mine have chargers on there ls1's and now they just sit in the garage on jackstands. Both guys drove thier cars more when they were na. one is a fully forged 346 ls1 w/ disc 16psi, makin 660whp. The other is a stock bottom end ls1 gto w/f1 runnin 8psi makin 500whp(mustang dyno). While they make great power, the maintnence and reliability issues seem to take the fun factor out of the car and now my friends barely drive them. Im not bashin procharger, just think about your goals with the car before you just bolt one on.
#40
Im sorry man, but i have to ask. Are you like a 16 year old kid or something? You are basing a serious build basically of the sound of the car. People are saying turbo, because most of the time a turbo is more efficent and can give you bigger power. I have a freind around here, he has a low 9 second trans-am, with a giant turbo on it, and it deffinatly doesent sound "ricey" it sounds bitchin! Please post intelligently. thank you. Good luck.