something does not sound right here? he must be running verrrrrrrrrrry lean for 440rwhp 395 rwtq
with just heads and cam.

Oh wait a minute. Just noticed the sig:

"96 TA, A4, Ram-Air, EVERY Bolt-On..."

I wonder what he means by every bolt on? OH MY god just 395 rwtq with 440 rwhp?

Very low torque with such horsepower level indeed.
I wonder how it would run vs. a bolt on LS1 with a heads and cam setup?

 

Nope im not using stock heads, im using AFR LT4 195cc heads, no aftercooler. thing is its a powerdyne blower, the thing is just maxed with these heads. plus im giving up 600rpms in my camshaft because of the impeller red-line of the powerdyne.

 

Ahhhh I see... Damn I didn't know that about the Powerdyne. My car is only really insane (when it was running good) above 5000 RPM. I take it up there VERY rarely, probably only 2 or 3 times, but when I did I felt like I was in a freakin' NHRA drag car. I'd be pretty embarassed if my car was puttin out under 375 RWHP. I have REALLY high expectations for the car, I'm so close to owning a 400 RWHP car that I can taste it If I were you, I'd probably take off the Powerdyne and the cam and sell them, do a bigger cam and n20, and more boltons. Or just change the blower. Are you runnin stock internals?

 

just wondering, but what was the point of this post? i dont see it taking away from his accomplishments, adding to his accomplishments, providing info, or disproving info, or having any input whatsoever. If its to prove that LS1 heads/cam cars make more tq...good job, i think everybody here already knows this for the most part in most instances.

 

Wow!! Did I diss the LT1s in ANYWAY???? Chill out buddy. This website is used to be of help for all of us.

The "point of that post" was to ask what EVERY BOLT ON included and I got my point across. He mentioned EVERY BOLT ON and I was just curious what that meant as he didnt mention he had a powerdyne supercharger which I would think would be the biggest reason of such outstanding results!

No need to get all pissy here man.

If I did not compliment his car (even though I see that I did because I could not really beleive his great results!), I take it back.

Nice figures man . Sorry if my previous post mislead your subject.

Cheers

 

I just read my post over and it might of sounded that I was saying that LS1s are better than LT1s. But what I really wanted to say was what did the bolt ons include.

Sorry about that. My apologies.

 

Yeah after seeing this post I was really thinking about it, yeah I do have stock internals, but I do have a spare 388 block just waiting for some lovin If I can ditch the cam and go with either something bigger or even switch to a solid roller I'll do that. 400RWHP is fun and all I think whats holding you back is your cam, if you had my cam I would bet NO doubt you would make 480RWHP on probably 7-8 psi. This cam was recommended by an LT1 cam Guru, I swear on any other blower that could push enough air with these heads and cam, 480RWHP easy. I Just know it and thats whats killing me. I didnt want to switch blowers right now cuz i didnt want to run 12 psi on stock iternals hence the 388, but if i can ditch the blower and get 440-450RWHP NA i am all for it

 

For the record 'every bolt on' does not include any form of power adder. Steve's car has ported LT-1 heads with stock diameter valves (NOT AFR's, LT-4's or any other aftermarket casting), a custom hydraulic roller cam and supporting valvetrain, 52MM TB, Underdrive Pulley, Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, Racetronix Fuel Pump, 30lb/hr injectors, Hooker Headers, Mufflex Y-Pipe, Cutout, Bassani Catback, WS6 Airbox w/ K&N filter, MSD Ignition, Taylor Plug Wires, and tuning by yours truly.

Making this kind of power with an LT-1 isn't that hard or even rocket science. Stock eliminator guys have been doing it long before us. When not faced with the kind of limitations that a stock eliminator racer has it is easy to get these kind of NA numbers with a properly setup and tuned cam and head package. We have done so much lately with the LS-1 engine some of this technology has transferred backwards to the LT-1.

Geoff

 

Both good numbers out of LA and the backwoods. Looks like Country and Cajun is the way to go fast

 

Steves car is not boosted... its all NA as geoff said. If you wonder how a stock ported 23 deg valve head lt1 runs with the stock ported 15 deg. valve headed ls1....we do just fine thanks. My motor only made 405 ft lbs and 435 hp(through a 9" with 4.71 gears)....but I don't seem to have too much trouble running with ls1s of the same mods. I know its hard for you guys to believe that a lt1 built the right way..can make the hp numbers of an ls1..but we can. The aftermarket R&D for the lt1 fell to the wayside when the ls1 came around..it is picking back up these days.

 

I am not really suprised.

We pulled 395RWHP 422RWTQ SAE Corrected out of mine last December running capped and unlocked trough a A4 and 12 bolt. This was through factory LT1 heads with porting. The AFRs may not show much more for numbers but the flow pattern is better.

Wait till the next round of mods

 

cough cough ...got a lt1 with stock valves ported lt1 castings and if we can get the electrical gremlins fixed be ready for some jaw dropping at 4100 rpm before it started breaking up try this on for size

405 rwhp/437 torque through a 4l60e plotting the graph beyond 4100 well we'll see

 

oh tell me more! Alright now im about fully committed to this idea. U guys tell me how to get there and I will do it! I am just about done messing around with this other stuff. Joe im very impressed with your results and I would like to learn more about your setups. Specifically what do i have to do to get the same or similar results.

 

Was that 60 ft on slicks? Nice time btw

 

thanks ,yes I was on slicks 28x10.5 Et drags with a 4.11 gear ...

 

Joe..is that on a stock bottom end motor and NA? If so thats bad ***


What rpm should it pull too?

 

yeah stock bottom end with about 70k on it...should peak about 6600

 

No dyno numbers yet but I should trap in the 114-116 range next track visit this on stock heads that I ported after never porting before. I went to the track and ran a 12.67@113.6 on a stock slippy clutch. Stock bottom end 224/230 112 LSA XE grind and some boltons. My car with me is probably about 3300 lbs so I dont know what kind of power she is makin yet maybe dyno numbers soon.

 

Maybe the thread should have started out 440 rwhp with ported "stock casting heads"/custom cam over 240 dur. @ .050 on a tight lobe.....

Then I could start one 452 rwhp with afr 195's /custom cam "under" 240 @.050 on a wider lobe....

guess its give or take..wonder which is more streetable..and not so much tolerable

I didnt realize the definition of head/cam meant "stock lt1 casting".. :p

On a side note stock eliminator cars are not HP motors they are low friction torque motors (cam) big tire and geared accordingly with th350/or glide trannies..Al Corda for ex. is only classified in the 335 hp range in stock eliminator...

I'm taking some things read between the lines here ...but in all seriousness just stating facts and passing along info..

 

Joe Looking forward to meeting you at the Shootout.How quick is that 452hp monster? The numbers that you guys are getting now amaze me. Frank95z