ninjai_ruken

Holy shiat! I always said if I die going over 200mph I will die happy...but now I am not so sure..I wanna go over 300!!!

ryleag

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I would agree with most of what everyone else said. Definitly over 150, but not much. 160 or just a bit more maybe.

TakeN0Prisoners

My Hypertech tuner on my 1995 Z28 lets me select a 255 speed limit. I believe that is the limit of Z rated tires that came on Z28's.

TakeN0Prisoners

You can make a brick go 308 mph with enough power. As demonstrated by the 3rd gen. lol

Nomind

Actually, the 3rd gen firebird has one of the lowest drag coeffecients that GM ever produced. I believe that it's in the neighborhood of 0.29, but I'm not positive. Not that 205hp at the flywheel will get you to 200, much less 300, but it will push 140 with a 305, T5 with 3.27 gears. I know.

94maro

i went about 165 racing my freind in his 01 ss camaro..were were right next to each other the whole time he had maybe a fender on me and we stayed into it well into fith gear then we seen traffic way in front so we let out before it got dangerous..lol he won =/

ss.slp.ls1

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What speedo are you using at 165?

1redta

there was actually an article in one of the Chevy mags about a third gen F-body going 200mph with 300hp (crank) it involved some firebird parts lowering? no mirrors light covers etc


here is a link to some coefficients of diff cars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automob...ag_coefficient

Jazz-LT1

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I believe with the right gearing and a car preped for the purpose, you could do about 185 or so in a mild street motor (~350rwhp). The car would need to be lower than most of us would want to drive on the street and the nose, lights, etc would need to be smoothed or taped. The suspension and tires become the next issues. Seriously though, there's not a lot of reason to discuss this unless you're planning to run one of the 1 mile or longer events. If anything goes wrong also plan on meeting Jesus, anything over 150mph hitting a stationary object would completely destroy the car and kill the occupant.

1995blacktattop

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A stock C4 can go 165mph, as well as an LT1 9C1 caprice. and if you believe that, i have a bridge for sale in brooklyn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y0fiN5eDnI

speed_demon24

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A stock C4 can go 165. Go spread your miss-information somewhere else.

94Z28'MachThis'

About aerodynamics... I would like to say that we have from anything I can think if of... One of the most aerodynamic cars in the world from the factory... Yeah we don't have nice areas where air can weave in and out of the car generating down force and stability... But our cars cost $ compared to $$$$ it takes to get all of that fancy body designs.. Lol

SS RRR

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If a stock f-body can hit high 150's to low 160's there's no reason why a C4 cannot hit 165.

speed_demon24

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4th gens are far from the most aerodynamic cars from the factory. 3rd gens were far more aerodynamic, and vettes blow us out of the water too. Not to mention the multiple family/economy cars that are far more aerodynamic.

speed_demon24

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As far as top speed fastest I've been is 6200-6300 in 5th with 3.73's. I was only making 375rwhp at the time.

1995blacktattop

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I thought a stock LT1 C4 went 155. even so there is no way that car was going 165mph with those 2 caprices right behind it.

94Z28'MachThis'

I said one of the most aerodynamic cars.. 3rd gens are a hair more aerodynamic... And when I say our cars it was including all fbodys.. They have always been more aero than most anything... I also stated our cars cost $ amount.. Yes for $$$$ you can get a more aero car but it will cost you.. What economy family car is more aero and has the performance to back it up as our cars do.. I am being serious not a dick..

speed_demon24

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4th gen's aren't nearly as aerodynamic as you think they are. This is just off a quick google search so I'm sure there's a ton more than this since the list is kind of dated.

0.338 Chevrolet Camaro 1995
0.33 Audi A3 2006
0.33 Acura Integra 1993-2001[25]
0.33 Citroën SM 1970
0.33 Honda Civic Hatchback 1988-1991[12]
0.33 Dodge Charger 2006
0.33 Ford Crown Victoria 1992
0.33 Ford Fusion 2010 [26]
0.33 Ford Escort ZX2 1998-2003[27]
0.33 Honda Accord Sedan 2002
0.33 Lamborghini Murcielago 2001
0.33 Lexus RX 2010
0.33 Mazda RX-7 FC3C 1987
0.33 Nissan 200SX Coupe 1995-1998[28]
0.33 Peugeot 206 1998
0.33 Peugeot 309 1986
0.33 Renault Modus 2004
0.33 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2004
0.33 Saturn SL2 1999[29]
0.33 Toyota Corolla 1993-1997[12]
0.33 Toyota Supra (without wing) 1989–1990
0.324 Cobalt SS Supercharged 2005
0.321 Toyota Matrix 2003-2008[30]
0.32 Volkswagen Golf MK3 1991
0.32 AMC Pacer 1975–1980
0.32 Ferrari California 2008
0.32 Buick Riviera 1995
0.32 BMW M3 Coupe 2005
0.32 Dodge Avenger 1995
0.32 Ford Taurus 1992-1995[31]
0.32 Geo Metro (Sedan) 1995-1997[12]
0.32 Honda Accord (Coupe) 2002
0.32 Honda NSX 1990
0.32 Honda Civic (Coupe) 1992-1995[12]
0.32 Honda Civic (Hatchback DX) 1996-2000[32]
0.32 Honda Civic (Sedan EX) 1996-2000[33]
0.32 Mazdaspeed3 2007
0.32 McLaren F1 1992
0.32 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16/2.3-16
0.32 Nissan Altima 1998-2001[34]
0.32 Nissan 240SX Coupe 1995-1998[35]
0.32 Nissan 300ZX 1989
0.32 Nissan Maxima 1997
0.32 Porsche 997 GT2 2008–present
0.32 Peugeot 406 1995
0.32 Peugeot 806 1994
0.32 Scion xB 2008
0.32 Suzuki Swift 1991
0.32 Toyota Celica 1994
0.32 Toyota Celica 2000-2005[36]
0.32 Toyota Supra (N/A with wing and turbo models) 1993
0.32 Toyota Supra (with factory turbo wing) 1987–1988
0.32 Toyota Tercel Sedan 1995-2000[37]
0.32 Volkswagen GTI Mk V 2006

Production cars (continued) Cd↓ Automobile↓ Year↓
0.315 Saturn SL1 1996-1999[38]
0.31 Audi A4 B5 1995
0.31 BMW 7-series 2009
0.31 Buick Park Avenue 1996
0.31 Cadillac CTS-V 2005
0.31 Citroën AX 1986
0.31 Citroën GS 1970
0.31 Eagle Vision 1995
0.31 FIAT Coupé 1995[39]
0.31 Ford Falcon 1995
0.31 Ford Thunderbird 1989-1997[40]
0.304 Ford Probe 1988-1992[41]
0.31 Holden Commodore 1998
0.31 Honda Civic (Sedan) 2006
0.31 Honda Civic (Hatchback) 1992-1995[12]
0.31 Kia Rio (Sedan) 2001[42]
0.310 Lamborghini Diablo 1990
0.31 Lexus LFA
(wing retracted) 2010
0.31 Mazda RX-7 FC3S 1986
0.31 Mazda RX-7 FD R1(R2) 1993
0.31 Mazda RX-8 2004
0.31 Mazda MX-6 1992–1997
0.31 Nissan Tiida / Versa 2004
0.31 Peugeot 307 2001
0.31 Porsche 997 Turbo/GT3 2006
0.31 Renault 25 1984
0.31 Saab Sonett III 1970
0.31 Saturn SC2 2001
0.31 Scion xA 2004
0.31 Toyota Avalon 1995–2000
0.31 Toyota Corolla 1998-2002[43]
0.32 Toyota Paseo 1995-1999[44]
0.31 Toyota RAV4 2006
0.31 Toyota Supra (N/A; without factory wing) 1993
0.31 Volkswagen GTI Mk IV 1997
0.30 Audi 100 1983
0.30 Alfa Romeo 164 Sedan 1988
0.30 Ford Taurus 1996-1999[45][46]
0.30 Honda Accord Sedan 2003, 2005–2007
0.30 Honda NSX 2002
0.30 Honda CRX DX/Si [47] 1988
0.30 Honda Odyssey 2005
0.30 Hyundai Sonata 2006
0.30 Koenigsegg CCX 2006
0.30 Mitsubishi Eclipse 2000
0.30 Nissan 180SX 1989
0.30 Nissan 300ZX 1983
0.30 Nissan 350Z Coupe Base and Enthusiast models 2003–2008
0.30 Nissan 370Z Coupe
(0.29 with sport package) 2009 [48]
0.30 Renault 19 16V 1991
0.30 Saab 92 1947
0.30 Toyota Sienna 2003–2009
0.30 Toyota Corolla 2003-2008[49]
0.295 Ford Falcon 1998
0.291 Toyota Avalon 2005
0.29 Alfa Romeo 155 1992
0.29 BMW 1-Series (116i Sportshatch) 2008
0.29 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
(with optional W62 Aero Package and N89 Turbo Cast rims) 1984
0.29 BMW 8-Series 1989
0.29 Chevrolet Corvette 2005
0.29 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 2002
0.29 Daewoo Espero 1990
0.29 Dodge Charger Daytona 1969
0.29 Eagle Talon 1990s
0.29 Ford Escape 2010 [50]
0.29 Ford Focus C-Max 2003 [51]
0.29 Honda Accord Hybrid 2005, 2007
0.29 Honda Accord Coupe 2003, 2005–2007
0.29 Honda CRX HF [47] 1988
0.29 Infiniti G35 Sedan 2008
0.29 Lancia Dedra 1990
0.29 Lexus LS 400 1990
0.29 Lotus Elite 1958
0.29 Lotus Europa 1966
0.29 Mazda Millenia 1995
0.29 Mazda RX-7 FC3S Aero Package 1986
0.29 Mazda 3 2010
0.29 Mazda RX-7 FD 1993
0.29 Mercedes-Benz SL (Roof Up) 2001
0.29 Mercedes-Benz W203 C-Class Coupe 2001
0.29 Nissan 350Z Coupe Track and Grand Touring 2007–2008
0.29 Nissan Versa 2007–2008
0.29 Peugeot 308 2007
0.29 Peugeot 407 2004
0.29 Peugeot 607 1999
0.29 Porsche Boxster 2005
0.29 Subaru XT 1985
0.29 Subaru SVX 1992
0.29 Toyota Echo 2000-2005[52][53]
0.29 Toyota Yaris 2007
0.29 Toyota Camry 1996–2001
0.29 Toyota Prius 2001
0.29 Volvo C70 2000
0.288 Chrysler Concorde 1998–2001
0.286 Chevrolet Corvette C6 2006
0.284 Volkswagen Passat CC 2008
0.28 Audi A2 1.4 TDI 2000
0.28 Citroën XM 1989
0.28 Citroën C4 2004
0.28 Lexus IS 2006–present
0.28 Mitsubishi Diamante 1995
0.28 Porsche 997 Carrera
(with optional automatic spoiler, PDK transmission 0.30) 2004
0.28 Renault 25 TS 1984
0.28 Honda Civic Hybrid 2003-2005[12]
0.28 Rumpler-Tropfenwagen 1921
0.28 Saab 9-3 2003
0.28 Toyota Camry / Lexus ES 2001
0.28 Opel Astra Coupe Turbo 2003
0.28 Opel Omega sedan 1986
0.27 Nissan GTR 2008
0.27 Mazda Mazda6 2009
0.27 Audi A2 1.6 FSI 2003
0.27 Honda Civic Hybrid 2006-
0.27 Hyundai Genesis 2009
0.27 Infiniti G35 Coupe
(0.26 with "aero package") 2003–2007
0.27 Lexus GS 2005
0.27 Mazda6 (sedan and hatchback) [54] 2008
0.27 Mercedes-Benz W203 C-Class Sedan 2001
0.27 Nissan GT-R 2008
0.27 Toyota Camry Hybrid 2007
0.27 Tucker Torpedo 1948
0.27 Volkswagen Passat B5 (sedan) 1997
0.27 Mercedes-Benz S Class
(0.268 with Sport Package) 2000–2005
0.27 Opel Insignia 2008–present
0.26 Opel Insignia - EcoFlex 2009–present
0.26 BMW E90 (0.26-0.30) 2009 [55]
0.26 Chevrolet Volt 2010
0.26 Hotchkiss Gregoire[citation needed] 1951
0.26 Lexus LS 430
(0.25 with air suspension) 2001–2006
0.26 Lexus LS 460 2006
0.26 Mercedes-Benz W221 S-Class 2006
0.26 Mercedes-Benz W211 E-Class 2002-09
0.26 Opel Calibra
(8 valve version) 1989
0.26 Toyota Prius 2004–2009
0.25 Audi A2 1.2 TDI 2001
0.25 Honda Insight 1999, 2003, 2005
0.25 Toyota Prius 2010
0.24 Mercedes E 220 CDI Blue Efficiency European version only, other E-Class Coupe 0.28
(0.25 sedan)( 2009
0.212 Tatra T77a 1935 [56]

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0.195 General Motors EV1 1996

tbird31

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I raced my buddy in his NA-T Supra a little back when I was still cam only. 3.42 gears, had the Street Lites on it then, stock height tire, 6 speed car...buried the needle and kept going for quite some time. My buddy said his speedo went to between 160 and 170mph. I figured I hit 150ish, went back and didn't realize he had his GPS on, he hit 161mph...and I was ahead of him.

94Z28'MachThis'

i searched for a good 10 min and couldn't get a list like that.. and how are our cars not very aero?.. look at them compared to 99% of the list... you would think our car cut through the wind with ease.. but if you were to take that list and say aero and performance the list would cut in half... then say aero/performance/cost there wouldnt be many cars in that list... and thats what i am saying for the cost plus performance... there isnt much around that beats an fbody.. correct?