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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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What are the signs of fading o2 sensors? Mine have about 100k on them...no real sign of any problems just curious. Is there a general rule of thumb on how long the factory Delco ones last?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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What are the signs of fading o2 sensors? Mine have about 100k on them...no real sign of any problems just curious. Is there a general rule of thumb on how long the factory Delco ones last?
You could hook up a scanner and see if the o2's are oscillating within the full spec range. But at 100k, if you've got the cash, I'd recommend that you get some new AC Delco o2 sensors.
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i just picked up 2 ac delco o2 sensors for 90 shipped so its not too bad if you want the insurance
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i just picked up 2 ac delco o2 sensors for 90 shipped so its not too bad if you want the insurance
where di you get them from?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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2 for 90 isn't that bad of a deal
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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The 4-wire flat Boshes usually run about $42 at the local parts store.
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
The 4-wire flat Boshes usually run about $42 at the local parts store.
I have heard good things and bad things about the Bosch units. AC Delco's are more expensive, but I have never heard of any bad experiences with them.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by transamws6_97
i just picked up 2 ac delco o2 sensors for 90 shipped so its not too bad if you want the insurance
So I've done some search on a few different web sites and the link you sent me for those O2 sensors are coming back as "CATCO" o2 on Summits web site and I think they are for a third Gen...any difference between the 3rd gen and 4th? On GM parts direct they are a different o2 then the actual part number Summit gave me for the OEM replacement AC Delco's. I'm not sure these are the correct ones. ThirdGen.org they say they are a 3 prong...aren't ours a 4 prong?
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
So I've done some search on a few different web sites and the link you sent me for those O2 sensors are coming back as "CATCO" o2 on Summits web site and I think they are for a third Gen...any difference between the 3rd gen and 4th? On GM parts direct they are a different o2 then the actual part number Summit gave me for the OEM replacement AC Delco's. I'm not sure these are the correct ones. ThirdGen.org they say they are a 3 prong...aren't ours a 4 prong?
Yeah, they are different, ours are 4-prong.
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Yeah the ones he bought are for a 96-97 5.7lL from what Summits web site is saying...doesn't look like they work for the 93-95
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Yeah the ones he bought are for a 96-97 5.7lL from what Summits web site is saying...doesn't look like they work for the 93-95
The '94-'95 o2 sensors are the same as the '96-'97 front o2 sensors.

'94-'97 fronts...
1994-1995 heated oxygen sensor
1996-1997 front heated oxygen sensor
AC-Delco # AFS75
19178930
(old 25312184)

For you '96-'97 guys...
1996-1997 rear heated oxygen sensor
AC-Delco # AFS97 19178921
(old 25312196)

For you '93 guys...
1993 Oxygen sensor (non-heated)
AC-Delco # AFS21 19211437
(old 25166816)
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
So I've done some search on a few different web sites and the link you sent me for those O2 sensors are coming back as "CATCO" o2 on Summits web site and I think they are for a third Gen...any difference between the 3rd gen and 4th? On GM parts direct they are a different o2 then the actual part number Summit gave me for the OEM replacement AC Delco's. I'm not sure these are the correct ones. ThirdGen.org they say they are a 3 prong...aren't ours a 4 prong?
shouldnt be catco o2's idk how you found that on summit...if you go to the main oxygen sensor page they say they only sell genuine delphi parts which delphi makes delco ****

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where di you get them from?
i cant throw that on here due to the company not being a sponsor
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Originally Posted by transamws6_97
shouldnt be catco o2's idk how you found that on summit...if you go to the main oxygen sensor page they say they only sell genuine delphi parts which delphi makes delco ****



i cant throw that on here due to the company not being a sponsor
Well they do indeed sell "Catco" here is a link to the site with the o2 sensor that popped up after I put in the part number from the link you sent me. Maybe it's something they compare it too.
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...=25312184&x=13
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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I think my original O2's are acting a bit lazy.When my motor is cold the car runs absolutely fine but when warmed up in stop and go traffic it will slightly miss at idle and sometimes hesitate on part throttle.My in-town gas mileage sucks big time too,about 10 or 11 MPG.Got black soot on my exhaust tips too.

Are these signs of O2's acting up?
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my stupid rear O2 (bank 1 sensor 2) sets a heater circuit code every once in a while. POS i just clear it every so often ha
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