LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Dyno Day Disaster

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 10:24 AM
  #21  
SoxXpupPeT's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,431
Likes: 1
From: Yonkers, NY
Default

oh jesus man that ******* sucks! i hope its just a headgasket and not something worse i feel for you man
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 10:30 AM
  #22  
Elliott's94Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,370
Likes: 1
From: Oregon Grown
Default

Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT
oh jesus man that ******* sucks! i hope its just a headgasket and not something worse i feel for you man
Thanks bro! If it's something major I'm gonna gut the entire motor out and swap in a LS7 with twin turbo
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 10:40 AM
  #23  
Chevyguy358's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 427
Likes: 0
From: Wilmington, NC
Default

If you have an air compressor do a leak down test. You can isolate the issue depending where you "hear" the air escape, i.e. crankcase (rings etc), intake or exhaust (bad VT part), you would also get bubbles in ur coolant if its a headgasket.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 10:49 AM
  #24  
zlicious94's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 321
Likes: 1
From: Troutdale,OR
Default

The other two options that it could be is a bad ring(s) or holes in the pistons(which is unlikely)but we are still getting to the bottom of it
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 11:11 AM
  #25  
StealthFormula's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,798
Likes: 54
From: Skippack, PA
Default

Dang bro sorry to hear about that. Curious to see exactly what the cause is.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 11:16 AM
  #26  
SS MPSTR's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,510
Likes: 1
From: SoCal
Default

I'm a little suspicious of the head gasket diagnosis too.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 11:22 AM
  #27  
Elliott's94Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,370
Likes: 1
From: Oregon Grown
Default

Originally Posted by zlicious94
The other two options that it could be is a bad ring(s) or holes in the pistons(which is unlikely)but we are still getting to the bottom of it
Yeah thanks for hanging in there with me huffin exhaust fumes all day...lol

Originally Posted by StealthFormula
Dang bro sorry to hear about that. Curious to see exactly what the cause is.
Thanks Stealth! The curiosity is killing me. I just wanna drive it so bad!
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 11:41 AM
  #28  
SS RRR's Avatar
Village Troll
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 11,111
Likes: 598
From: Jackstandican
Default

Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
Lots of blowby...then shortly after the car doesn't want to stay running
A leakdown test will tell you exactly what's wrong if you want to do that before taking off the heads. My bet is a munched piston or two. Possibly ring lands...
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 11:45 AM
  #29  
Elliott's94Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,370
Likes: 1
From: Oregon Grown
Default

Originally Posted by SS RRR
A leakdown test will tell you exactly what's wrong if you want to do that before taking off the heads. My bet is a munched piston or two. Possibly ring lands...
Yeah my luck it probably will be...still hoping for the best.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 12:06 PM
  #30  
SoxXpupPeT's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,431
Likes: 1
From: Yonkers, NY
Default

Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
Thanks bro! If it's something major I'm gonna gut the entire motor out and swap in a LS7 with twin turbo
haha that wouldnt be So bad then if it is something major can i have your heads ?
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 12:31 PM
  #31  
Elliott's94Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,370
Likes: 1
From: Oregon Grown
Default

Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT
haha that wouldnt be So bad then if it is something major can i have your heads ?
Yup I will have a part out sale...LE2 heads, cam, lpp lt's etc etc
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 01:02 PM
  #32  
SoxXpupPeT's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,431
Likes: 1
From: Yonkers, NY
Default

Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
Yup I will have a part out sale...LE2 heads, cam, lpp lt's etc etc
i would love the lpp's and heads hopefully its just the gasket haha when are you going to tear her down ?
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 01:04 PM
  #33  
Elliott's94Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,370
Likes: 1
From: Oregon Grown
Default

Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT
i would love the lpp's and heads hopefully its just the gasket haha when are you going to tear her down ?
Hoping to start the tear down next week sometime. Should have some answers here soon.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 01:12 PM
  #34  
1badzee's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 0
From: SFL
Default

Sorry to hear that man. Good luck and keep us posted
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 02:04 PM
  #35  
Mikey 97Z M6's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver, WA
Default

Ya it was a shitty day at Toms dyno. Elliots car was putting excessive pressure into the crankcase. We pulled the pcv valve and the thing was puffin' with the cylinder strokes. Hopefully it's not a ringland but if it is, Cody has many LT1 pistons/rods, or even my old complete LT1 shortblock sitting there as a last resort. It's number 5 and 7, so pulling the the piston/rods out the bottom shouldn't be too bad as long as the crank journals and bores look good.

But then again........... if you're ready for an LSX swap I know someone who could help ya out.

Mike

Last edited by Mikey 97Z M6; Apr 18, 2009 at 03:08 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 02:58 PM
  #36  
SS RRR's Avatar
Village Troll
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 11,111
Likes: 598
From: Jackstandican
Default

Well.. if it isn't ringlands then it could've been from valve float smacking the pistons and causing some havoc. Did trouble start at high rpm?
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:08 PM
  #37  
Mikey 97Z M6's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 3
From: Vancouver, WA
Default

Originally Posted by SS RRR
Well.. if it isn't ringlands then it could've been from valve float smacking the pistons and causing some havoc. Did trouble start at high rpm?
No. It blew the pcv valve out of the valvecover at 3500 rpm. Didn't go above that on the dyno prior.

Mike
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:12 PM
  #38  
AChotrod's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,896
Likes: 1
From: Chicago area
Default

Bummer! Sorry to hear this E. How much did you drive the car b4 the tune? You may have washed out the rings? Hope its nothing serious!! I would hate to loose ya to the LSx boys!!
Its not valve float if he went with the Patriot springs and Im sure pretty sure he did!
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:13 PM
  #39  
Elliott's94Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,370
Likes: 1
From: Oregon Grown
Default

Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
Ya it was a shitty day at Toms dyno. Elliots car was putting excessive pressure into the crankcase. We pulled the pcv valve and the thing was puffin' with the cylinder strokes. Hopefully it's not a ringland but if it is, Cody has many LT1 pistons/rods, or even my old complete LT1 shortblock sitting there as a last resort. It's number 5 and 7, so pulling the the piston/rods out the bottom shouldn't be too bad as long as the crank journals and bores look good.

But then again........... if you're ready for an LSX swap I know someone who could help ya out.

Mike
Well if it comes down to big money you can bet your *** that LT motors coming out and a swap will be taking place. There might be a BIG parts sale going down here..but I'm hoping for the best
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:15 PM
  #40  
Elliott's94Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,370
Likes: 1
From: Oregon Grown
Default

Originally Posted by AChotrod
Bummer! Sorry to hear this E. How much did you drive the car b4 the tune? You may have washed out the rings? Hope its nothing serious!! I would hate to loose ya to the LSx boys!!
Its not valve float if he went with the Patriot springs and Im sure pretty sure he did!
No Patriot springs...Comp Cams. I drove the car a little, but only because I had too.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:57 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE