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Old May 5, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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After coming to the conclusion my ported stockers suck, I am looking into buying a set of these heads. I found one set for $1300 shipped to my door. I had a chance to purchase some LE2s fairly cheap a while back but waited around too long. Just from checking the specs on these 2 heads they seem to be somewhat similiar? Has anyone here gotten them any cheaper than 1300 bucks? Or had any bad experiences with these heads? Any feedback is appreciated
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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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I run them. They are decent. They kill compression on a stock 350 though, the chambers are 62cc.

LE2's will blow them away. The stock Trickflows flow in the 250 range at their peak. I paid $840 for bare castings 3 years ago. Fully assembled at that time were $1200ish iirc. They are an AMAZING casting to send out to a reputable porter for work to be done though.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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I run them. They are decent. They kill compression on a stock 350 though, the chambers are 62cc.

LE2's will blow them away. The stock Trickflows flow in the 250 range at their peak. I paid $840 for bare castings 3 years ago. Fully assembled at that time were $1200ish iirc. They are an AMAZING casting to send out to a reputable porter for work to be done though.
Pretty much what I wanted to say.

Usually:
stock castings < aftermarket stock castings < ported stock castings < ported aftermarket castings
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Old May 5, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Pretty much what I wanted to say.

Usually:
stock castings < aftermarket stock castings < ported stock castings < ported aftermarket castings
Bingo on the order.
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I dont really have the cash to blow on any heavy duty porting at the moment. Otherwise I would probably get the LE3s. Plus this is for a Weekendcar/Occassional DD I would think these heads would be ok? Would 380 rwhp be a reasonable estimate with the addition of the Trick Flows to my current setup? I'm trying to squeeze out a few more ponies without breaking my wallet.
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I'm a huge fan of big valve ported stockers, but I just opened the new Summit catalogue and saw that Trick Flow now offers an n/a version of a 185cc head with 54cc chambers, 2.02/1.60 stainless valves, 21 deg valve angle, double springs, locks, guide plates, etc...CNC profiled, bowl blended, fast as cast technology whatever that means...Just thought they looked interesting...Have no knowledge of their performance...Might be worth looking into and do some research on...$1495/pair...Just an FYI...

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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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now y would you want to put little castings like that on a badass 383 setup....
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Old May 5, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by joelster
I run them. They are decent. They kill compression on a stock 350 though, the chambers are 62cc.

LE2's will blow them away. The stock Trickflows flow in the 250 range at their peak. I paid $840 for bare castings 3 years ago. Fully assembled at that time were $1200ish iirc. They are an AMAZING casting to send out to a reputable porter for work to be done though.
I got the fully assembled ones and they are really nice. Had my local machine shop mill them to 53cc's.
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I feel as tho they are a good head...later you could send them to LE and let him work his magic.
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or get a set of good sbc heads and have them converted
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I'm just looking for a few extra hp. I'm 21 and kind of limited on funds at the moment. But I found a pair of assembled new Trickflows locally for 1200. I'm pretty tempted just to get them. Maybe on down the road I could have LE port them.
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why are you concluding that your ported stockers suck? A good set of ported stockers should get you over 400whp with a decent cam! 450+ with a solid roller...
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
now y would you want to put little castings like that on a badass 383 setup....
Yep, you're right...I don't know what I'm talking about...Just throwing it out there...Me and my slow *** small headed/cammed 383 car will crawl back under a rock...

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Originally Posted by ABA383
Yep, you're right...I don't know what I'm talking about...Just throwing it out there...Me and my slow *** small headed/cammed 383 car will crawl back under a rock...

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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ABA383
Yep, you're right...I don't know what I'm talking about...Just throwing it out there...Me and my slow *** small headed/cammed 383 car will crawl back under a rock...

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this kid couldnt own me if he tried first of all stick to seeing **** in the summit ad and put it on your car which is all you will do anyway..those heads arent that special anyway just sack up and get some le2's or so and/or if you have the money buy those heads and send them to Le and have him work his magic.. i wasnt talking smack to you at all im sorry you took it the wrong way But if you want war on the internet stick to doing it on your videogames..
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Originally Posted by ABA383
Yep, you're right...I don't know what I'm talking about...Just throwing it out there...Me and my slow *** small headed/cammed 383 car will crawl back under a rock...

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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
this kid couldnt own me if he tried first of all stick to seeing **** in the summit ad and put it on your car which is all you will do anyway..those heads arent that special anyway just sack up and get some le2's or so and/or if you have the money buy those heads and send them to Le and have him work his magic.. i wasnt talking smack to you at all im sorry you took it the wrong way But if you want war on the internet stick to doing it on your videogames..
I think Alan has a good point thou, look at his baby cam little headed car's times!!!!!!!
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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
why are you concluding that your ported stockers suck? A good set of ported stockers should get you over 400whp with a decent cam! 450+ with a solid roller...
The guy who ported these heads basically looked at a picture of an LT4 head/ports and tried to match it the best he could. The motor was stock at the time. This was also a few months after I got the car and I hadnt really done much research on heads etc yet. Yeah stupid I know, but I just figured a decent aftermarket casting would be alot better than what I have now. And definitely give me something to work with later on if I wanted to.
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Originally Posted by LT1forever
The guy who ported these heads basically looked at a picture of an LT4 head/ports and tried to match it the best he could. The motor was stock at the time. This was also a few months after I got the car and I hadnt really done much research on heads etc yet. Yeah stupid I know, but I just figured a decent aftermarket casting would be alot better than what I have now. And definitely give me something to work with later on if I wanted to.
yes X2 i agree, get the aftermarket casting, run that for a while, and when you want even more power, send the A/M castings out and have those bad boys ported. i plan on running the Dart Pro 1 200cc Heads when i do my 383 build.
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well i ran those times on a stock bottom end lt1 car so thats nothing special there with a 383...

either way i was NOT talking **** to him at all but like i said earlier if he is or wants to its fair game

so just buy the good heads and send them out later in life just like previously stated
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
well i ran those times on a stock bottom end lt1 car so thats nothing special there with a 383...

either way i was NOT talking **** to him at all but like i said earlier if he is or wants to its fair game

so just buy the good heads and send them out later in life just like previously stated
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