Originally Posted by lemons12

re-read what i said please..

i didnt say you couldnt.. i said it is not probable.. because it isnt..

most ls1 a4s have a difficult time clearing the 400rwhp mark by a good margin.. so you cant tell me for a second the chances for an lt1 making that are "very" attainable..

you need to remember, were talking stalled a4s with gears.. not m6s..
i promise you that 500rwhp (which i doubt it makes this to the ground, or it is a VERY VERY generous dyno.. please correct if im wrong) is an m6.. probably has low gears.. does not have a 9 inch or 12 bolt small street tires.. etc etc etc..

Originally Posted by RamAir95TA

I know two local LS1 guys making almost 430whp, cam only, who post regularly on the forums.

I am clarifying to you that with the right combo and tuning, 400HP is easy. Most LT1 owners just throw stuff and HOPE for 400 HP. Others build their cars to MAKE 400HP. You'll also find that the guys who build with intention do their research, make comparisons to similar combos, regardless of gearing, stall, rear, etc. I'm just thinking maybe you should give this guy some hope, because what he's asking for is not impossible.

Besides, dyno numbers don't mean much anyway. My pig hasn't been dynoed, and I'm an auto through a 9". I could care less what it puts down as long as I'm ETing what I am.

Originally Posted by muxlt1

I was just looking at this one:


YANK STEALTH 2800 LT1
298mm, 2800 Stall, 1.90 STRStock appearing converter that delivers a noticeable improvement in acceleration over stock. 3 tenths reduction in 1/4 times are common.

$500, I have $950 cash right now going to order this and a 52 mm tb from bbk or holley.

Not planning on running it on track until the 26th, so tires will come then.

Originally Posted by lemons12

the one at 430rwhp, is it an a4 or an m6?

Originally Posted by dlk1950

If you are looking at Yank converters,Call them and talk to dave,tell him what your plans for the car are.He was very helpful when I was looking.

Originally Posted by RamAir95TA

It's an M6 through a 12-bolt. I am not a huge believer in the massive drivetrain losses that everyone so complains about with the automatic. Even if it was an added loss of 5%, you're still looking at wheel HP around 415.

There are inherent advantages to both types. Either way, the motor itself would still put out the same power regardless of what transmission is bolted to it.

Originally Posted by lemons12

so thats one?

415 isnt too much over the mark..

how huge is his cam?

my point is... ls1s have give or take 40rwhp advantage... and most a4 ls1s have a hard time hitting 400rwhp H/C.. so it is VERY hard for me to believe it is "Easy" to do with an lt1.. possible? yes... but not likely..

Originally Posted by JB_97ws6TA

GTFO you don't even have an LT so how can you begin to pass judgement having such a biased opinion. Yes LS1s have a little bit more out of the box. Our big limiting factor is heads so if you get a good flowing set of heads and an APPROPRIATE cam you can spin 400 rwhp through a stalled auto all day. I am EMISSIONS cam only on a stock shortblock, stock heads through a stalled a4 and I got 340 so you can't for one second tell me that a little more duration and a bit more lift on a set of ported heads is only going to net 60 hp!

Originally Posted by lemons12

so because i have an ls1 i dont know **** about lt1s.. sounds about right... wrong.

i have a fairly good bit of knowledge on what they are capable of.. do i think you would pick up 60rwhp out of a head swap and a little bit more duration.. hell no.
but please, do it and prove me wrong..

again.. i can tell you for infinity seconds that for stalled lt1s 400rwhp is NOT the norm.. no where close.. i have yet to see a link to one.. one guy posted up one with 430rwhp IIRC and it ended up being a six speed car..
what you guys cant tell me for a second is that lt1s hitting 400rwhp is "easy" when its not even easy on an ls1...

factory the ls1s have around a 40rwhp advantage.. mod for mod they pick up more hp/tq than an lt1... it isnt "easy" to make a stalled a4 ls1 hit 400rwhp.. if im wrong, please show me *multiple* threads of stalled a4 lt1s hitting 400rwhp H/C..
im not being biased, im being truthful. how about you quit being naive and look at facts..

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

stop comparing ls1's and lt1's. this thread isn't about that. if you think that it is uncommon for stalled lt1's to hit 400rwhp (who really gives a **** about dynos anyways) you should probably lay back and read a little more. like it was said, if you do your research and set the car up properly you can definitely see 400rwhp.

Originally Posted by lemons12

you lt1 guys cant read for ****, plain and simple... never once have i said a properly setup and well thought out lt1 cant hit 400.. i said it was not probably and definitely not "Easy" like some are making it out to be.

please show me where all these 400rwhp lt1s are..

i DRUG one last night at the track.. AFR heads big cam big converter etc etc ect.. its a "drag car".. then he sprayed a 100 shot and ran the same times i was..

its hard for me to believe most a4 lt1s with H/C have 400rwhp when thats about what i make and absolutely destroy them..

im sure most of you know i am right... im done with it.. have a nice day!

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

you just contradicted yourself so i really don't know how to debate this. if some asshat can't set his **** up, how can i control this? e/t's and dyno numbers are two totally different things too, thought you ls1 boys new that i hope i never run into you, don't want my **** getting destroyed its like everyone who has an ls1 is an expert and runs 12s stock, what a joke. this argument is pointless since you will never accept anything i say. if you really want to learn though, go do some reading on lt1's.

Originally Posted by 95ztrey

Just do your research and set a goal and build it , you can listen to people ALL DAY IT WONT MAKE IT FASTER , research research research is whats its about , i havent had mine dynoed but it runs DAMN good and suprising many many people !! 400rwhp thru a stall is possible but its up to you and the money !!!

Originally Posted by nofordfan

hello 94 lt1 here have a 306 cam 4100 stall stock heads running 7.80s in 1/8 and a 9 inch in rear 4.11 gears and i smoke amost every ls1 at my track i cant stand people who go buy sominthing like a ls1 gto camaro or trans and think that just because they are newer that they are better than a lt1 and i have seen alot of ls1s go boom at least they wont rust at the bottom of a lake lol

Originally Posted by lemons12

you guys cant read... i said its not "easy".. meaning if you dont do your research and know your ****, your not going to hit it (most people dont do one, or in most cases both of these)
i never said i was an expert, i have said i could be wrong and to pleae point me to something showing me i am.. nobody has yet... why? because its not "easy" to go find a ton of threads with stalled lt1s at 400rwhp..
and yes, it probably is better you dont run into me.



thank you..



i run 7.40s@91.5 hot lapped.. that a full weight car with a/c radio big fat stock tires up front 317 heads a baby 226 cam ls6 intake etc etc...
my last setup went 7.2s@95.5mph spinning/hitting rev limiter/not tuned for heads in 90 degree weather..

both those times are on motor.. the 7.2@95 was a "budget build", if i had the money it would have been much faster..

your acting like i bought a stock car and came in here talking ****...

my times are in my sig.. maybe you should glance at them before saying **** like that..
7.80s... @ what? 86mph...

they are newer, and they are better... if you cant agree on that........ well.. you get the point.. (FWIW i think the lt1 is also a great platform.. but your just ignorant/naive if you cant say the ls1 is a superior platform)

you guys are funny....