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Porting stock heads and intake? worth it?

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Old 09-11-2009, 02:11 PM
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Your friend is an idiot!!!

Look at the power LE and AI get out of these heads.

Not 5hp in them?

HA! Try 50+

Dont let the clown touch them. SEND them to a REPUTABLE shop...

You gotta pay to play
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Are you greg rob As in the "Noble" King?
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Originally Posted by CARFREAKS
Are you greg rob As in the "Noble" King?
Your friend is not familiar with the capabilities of LT1 heads, period. They are FANTASTIC for porting.

Look at the picture of a stock casting, then look at this:



Those are my CNC ported AI 200cc heads. That's the reason we pay thousands of dollars for quality port-work.
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He said there wasn't enough meat, maybe they have been worked on before. Or do you know the casting # of your heads? Maybe he has the thinner wall one. Even if that is the case and they haven't been worked before you can still do some nice porting on them
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Light porting has been done. Gasket matching thats about all.
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sounds like your 383 setup could use some heavy breathing heads.
i dont think i would use oe heads, for the price u gonna pay, might as well pay for afr or tfs
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Morris. there is a big time engine guy up here in Michigan same last name Steve Morris. Big in heads and pro chargers.. there must be something in the blood line.
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Originally Posted by CARFREAKS
I have this 383 build. A friend of mine does CNC he said my stock heads and intake has alot more to go. Is it worth porting the stock heads if I'm keeping the same size vaules? He would do a full port job intake and EXG for only $75 a head. and $50 for the intake will I get good reasults? please some one answer that knows the stock heads.


IF it was my car I would send them to Advanced Induction then I would have
MoeHorsepower tune it.
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Originally Posted by NemeSS
sounds like your 383 setup could use some heavy breathing heads.
i dont think i would use oe heads, for the price u gonna pay, might as well pay for afr or tfs
that and ditch the hot cam
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Actually I liked the cam... It was good for what i'm doing with it...
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Originally Posted by CARFREAKS
I dont know how much lt1 EXP he has but he has done alot of heads.I wonder is there is a "LE" guide to porting lol... i think i'm going to give it a try i do have a spare set of heads.... How would I risk loosing power? What could go wrong?
This here generally states that you and you buddy both do NOT understand the art and science of porting...
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If there is only gasket matching done to the heads, and your friend said there's not much left after that, or anything that will give you more than 5hp, your friend is stupid and you should delete him from your contacts list on your cellular device and never speak to him again when pertaining to your car.
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
If there is only gasket matching done to the heads, and your friend said there's not much left after that, or anything that will give you more than 5hp, your friend is stupid and you should delete him from your contacts list on your cellular device and never speak to him again when pertaining to your car.
I remember when a buddy got some new dart 230's and was looking at them and didnt think they could be much better. He thought they were about as good as they get.... I thought it was funny, cuz there is quite a bit to work with there... Oh and he's been doing valve jobs at home and bracket racing since the 60's....

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Originally Posted by 1badzee
If there is only gasket matching done to the heads, and your friend said there's not much left after that, or anything that will give you more than 5hp, your friend is stupid and you should delete him from your contacts list on your cellular device and never speak to him again when pertaining to your car.
Thats a funny quote. But his T/A runs 8's and his full lb dodge ram runs 10:80s. He just hasnt ported alot of LT stuff. But he has done good with the stuff he has. He hasnt never broke any thing he has ever sprayed... Even a motrised cooler. He is definatly setting up my NOS system.

I would rather him tell me not to have him port them and not take my $$ then say yah i'll try but it might go bad and I'm still going to take your $$.

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Originally Posted by CARFREAKS
Thats a funny quote. But his T/A runs 8's and his full lb dodge ram runs 10:80s. He just hasnt ported alot or LT stuff. But he has done good with the stuff he has. He hasnt never broke any thing he has ever sprayed... Even a motrised cooler. He is definatly setting up my NOS system.

I would rather him tell me not to have him port them and not take my $$ then say yah i'll try but it might go bad and I'm still going to take your $$.
Friend's port friend's head's for free. No homo.
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Only if the Friend is a Homo and pays with @$$ loven is it ever free. I guess thats what you do?

I dont take advantage of freinds. Especially if he is crazy busy and can make a lot more $$ from big time clients. Thats "using" a friend. It's saying his time isnt worth anything to me. You dont go to a banker that is a friend and exspect him to give you free $$ do you? Or a car salesman and exspect a free car... same applies here.
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Well, this thread has gone downhill.
Back on topic, I had my stock heads ported and port matched to my intake, and I am very pleased. Put in Manley ss 2.02/1.60 valves, ARP studs, beehive springs, Comp Cams full roller rockers, all for less than a basic set of aftermarket heads.
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Originally Posted by CARFREAKS
Only if the Friend is a Homo and pays with @$$ loven is it ever free. I guess thats what you do?

I dont take advantage of freinds. Especially if he is crazy busy and can make a lot more $$ from big time clients. Thats "using" a friend. It's saying his time isnt worth anything to me. You dont go to a banker that is a friend and exspect him to give you free $$ do you? Or a car salesman and exspect a free car... same applies here.
It was a joke..but if i have a friend that is a car salesman i expect a big *** discount
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If your friend has access to a flow bench, have him flow the current heads, and then we can tell if they are really only good for 5 hp more.

If he doesn't, then his advice (not to have him touch them) was good.
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Good point! BTW I'm a car salesman and I would give you a huge discount


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