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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Tring to gather some parts to put my rag back togather. I currently have accell 36 Lb injectors. Im going to be running a stand alone direct port system, Solid roller cam(Not sure on the specs yet) TEa stage 2 heads, stock intake, 383 with Roughly a 12:1 compression ratio. Hoping it will make somewwhere around 475ish N/A, Any suggestions?
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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I'd imagine a 42lb ford injector should be up to the task

what duty cycle and power level were you at before with the 36# accells?
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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I have a similar setup using 42# Lucas/Delphi injectors with good results.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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i would put a fuel pressure regulator on it and turn up the PSI about 10-15lbs
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Black96transam
i would put a fuel pressure regulator on it and turn up the PSI about 10-15lbs
LMFAO!
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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is he serious just put the 42s and call it the day
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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The sad thing is I think he is serious.

I say run the 36s and check the duty cycle. But I think ultimately you will need 42s.
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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i would put a fuel pressure regulator on it and turn up the PSI about 10-15lbs
All i can say is WOW!!!
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Originally Posted by ramair95ta
i have a similar setup using 42# lucas/delphi injectors with good results.
+1...
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Black96transam
i would put a fuel pressure regulator on it and turn up the PSI about 10-15lbs
x2! that and throw a tornado on and you'll be looking at over 500hp!!!
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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I was thinking 42 lb as well, As far as the duty cycle with the old setup its been so long I cant remember. Any chance in hell that the 36's I have will work for it? If not Ill start loking for a good set.
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
x2! that and throw a tornado on and you'll be looking at over 500hp!!!
Tornado for the win!!!
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by waltsfastz
I was thinking 42 lb as well, As far as the duty cycle with the old setup its been so long I cant remember. Any chance in hell that the 36's I have will work for it? If not Ill start loking for a good set.
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depends how healthy the setup is
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Flywheel HP x 0.07 = #/HR
This formula takes into consideration the injector working at 85% duty cycle.

I assume if you are going direct port then you will have an independent fuel delivery system for nitrous. If that is the case then fuel injector size has no bearing.

If you go with 42's that should be plenty as long as the PCM is tuned for them.
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Flywheel HP x 0.07 = #/HR
This formula takes into consideration the injector working at 85% duty cycle.

I assume if you are going direct port then you will have an independent fuel delivery system for nitrous. If that is the case then fuel injector size has no bearing.

If you go with 42's that should be plenty as long as the PCM is tuned for them.
475*.07=33.25

Why would he need 42's?
Seems like when I first got into the LT1 world, people were swapping out for 30# SVO's, Now people with the same setups seem to need 40+ injectors to run the same numbers people were running back in '03

Just askin'

I'd log some time with the 36's and see what your duty cycle is and go from there.
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Originally Posted by Michigan Skip
475*.07=33.25

Why would he need 42's?
Seems like when I first got into the LT1 world, people were swapping out for 30# SVO's, Now people with the same setups seem to need 40+ injectors to run the same numbers people were running back in '03

Just askin'

I'd log some time with the 36's and see what your duty cycle is and go from there.
Using 36# injectors will put them at 92% duty cycle. Keeping them around 80% is desirable.
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Michigan Skip
475*.07=33.25
Why would he need 42's?
Not saying he would. It is unclear if the 475hp goal is flywheel or wheel hp. What I am trying to say is even if the demand does not require 42lb injectors the PCM can compensate the pulse width for those injectors if tuned properly.
I agree as far as those using too large of an injector for their application, but again, doesn't hurt anything. I was running stock 24lb/hr injectors putting out 370rwhp and did so for more than 70K miles with no fuel issues.
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Using 36# injectors will put them at 92% duty cycle. Keeping them around 80% is desirable.
How did you arrive at 92%?
This site calculated a 37.3# injector at 80% DC
Not trying to start anything, and I fully understand that a properly tuned pcm can deal with oversize on the injector, it's just that in the last few years every one seems to think that bigger is better.

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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Not saying he would. It is unclear if the 475hp goal is flywheel or wheel hp. What I am trying to say is even if the demand does not require 42lb injectors the PCM can compensate the pulse width for those injectors if tuned properly.
I agree as far as those using too large of an injector for their application, but again, doesn't hurt anything. I was running stock 24lb/hr injectors putting out 370rwhp and did so for more than 70K miles with no fuel issues.
I see where you're coming from.
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Im looking for 475 at the rears with an unlocked convertor, 3 speed tranny and 9 incher.
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